From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#45319: 28.0.50; Redisplay: `forward-char' moves backwards into invisible text Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 13:26:01 +0200 Message-ID: <83v9cyt4ty.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87sg82tjf6.fsf@web.de> <838s9uupnr.fsf@gnu.org> <87ft42m47c.fsf@web.de> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24668"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: jonas@bernoul.li, 45319@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 19 12:27:23 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kqaOR-0006JX-R9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 12:27:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38698 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kqaOQ-0006nl-Jb for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 06:27:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55396) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kqaO6-0006nb-HD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 06:27:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:57585) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kqaO6-0000a0-8u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 06:27:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kqaO6-00031S-5n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 06:27:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 11:27:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45319 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 45319-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45319.160837718811574 (code B ref 45319); Sat, 19 Dec 2020 11:27:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 45319) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Dec 2020 11:26:28 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40898 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kqaNX-00030b-Sm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 06:26:28 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33880) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kqaNV-00030L-LP for 45319@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 06:26:26 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54524) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kqaNQ-0000JP-DC; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 06:26:20 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2969 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kqaNP-0006d2-8X; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 06:26:19 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87ft42m47c.fsf@web.de> (message from Michael Heerdegen on Sat, 19 Dec 2020 12:21:27 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:196379 Archived-At: > From: Michael Heerdegen > Cc: 45319@debbugs.gnu.org, jonas@bernoul.li > Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 12:21:27 +0100 > > > Does setting global-disable-point-adjustment non-nil and repeating > > your experiment explain what happens? > > I currently can't try because I'm eating ATM (yeah, shouldn't read mails > while eating...) but in the Magit buffer that was the first thing I had > tried and it didn't have an effect. then maybe your recipe is not a complete demonstration what happens in Magit buffers. > > It isn't a redisplay problem. > > Point is moved from a visible into an invisible area - that should not > happen, no? Even with point-adjustment enabled. Why not? "Invisible" means it is not displayed, but it doesn't mean point cannot be there. We have point-adjustment to avoid confusing users because otherwise when point enters invisible text, cursor movement commands would seem to have no effect, but that doesn't mean point cannot enter invisible text.