From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#47424: 28.0.50; enable-theme shows an empty list Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2021 14:47:29 +0300 Message-ID: <83v992clv2.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83czvaecf5.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32191"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 47424@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, mardani29@yahoo.es To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 04 13:48:17 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lT1Em-0008HA-VC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2021 13:48:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42120 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lT1El-0004wf-MP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2021 07:48:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55354) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lT1EZ-0004wC-SF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2021 07:48:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:51672) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lT1EY-0008Da-Gd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2021 07:48:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lT1EY-00088J-FP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2021 07:48:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2021 11:48:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47424 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 47424-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B47424.161753686631239 (code B ref 47424); Sun, 04 Apr 2021 11:48:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 47424) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Apr 2021 11:47:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34985 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lT1EH-00087n-Pa for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2021 07:47:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:34120) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lT1EE-00087Z-RP for 47424@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2021 07:47:43 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:39788) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lT1E9-00082o-E5; Sun, 04 Apr 2021 07:47:37 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3503 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lT1E8-00012m-PT; Sun, 04 Apr 2021 07:47:37 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Sun, 4 Apr 2021 04:05:43 -0500) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:203537 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2021 04:05:43 -0500 > Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 47424@debbugs.gnu.org, mardani29@yahoo.es > > > With themes, you can load several ones and then enable/disable any of > > them whenever you see fit. > > I don't see why a user would want/need to load a theme if she does not > intend to use it. The user does intend to use these themes, just not right away and not all of them. It's a valid use case to want to switch to another theme, e.g. because someone wants one theme in the morning and another in the evening. > What am I missing? I don't think you are missing anything, you just disregard everything I say in response and keep repeating the same claims and questions. That's not a useful discussion method. I'm tempted to stop responding because it just wastes my time. Sorry for being blunt. > > Under your proposal, disabling a theme would be impossible without > > unloading it, and that might not be easy to do cleanly. > > I'm not sure I follow; I see no need to make it symmetrical in that > sense. So loading the theme will enable it, but disabling will not unload it? Then how to I re-enable a theme that was disabled? by loading it the second time? > In the same way, we don't bother unloading a library just because > the major-mode involved is not used in any buffer. But we do > provide a way to autoload major modes. Themes are not like modes, they are in effect in the entire Emacs session, in all of the buffers. You cannot evade a theme by going to another buffer like you do with modes.