From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#52053: 29.0.50; Nonsensical button "C-x C-f" in scratch buffer Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2021 17:15:31 +0200 Message-ID: <83v90g467g.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87czmr5gr7.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87czmr5gr7.fsf@yahoo.com> <612d659daa29af13c2e5@heytings.org> <83y25c5wn0.fsf@gnu.org> <612d659daabc268505c4@heytings.org> <83pmqo5vmp.fsf@gnu.org> <612d659daad03d6bc73d@heytings.org> <834k805nil.fsf@gnu.org> <612d659daa026d901515@heytings.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17221"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, larsi@gnus.org, 52053@debbugs.gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 25 16:26:57 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mqGeG-0004BO-6g for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 16:26:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56534 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mqGeE-0007qO-VJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 10:26:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39726) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mqGTi-0007BV-Np for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 10:16:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:46345) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mqGTi-0005K8-Cc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 10:16:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mqGTi-0002px-8A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 10:16:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2021 15:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 52053 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 52053-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B52053.163785334910824 (code B ref 52053); Thu, 25 Nov 2021 15:16:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 52053) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Nov 2021 15:15:49 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57891 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mqGTU-0002oV-KU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 10:15:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38838) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mqGTG-0002nM-T3 for 52053@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 10:15:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=44750 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mqGTB-0004Tw-76; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 10:15:29 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=VyP8qmYoXhXPPCjhh9aGB56d50nFmP0mGvxNh6viliU=; b=ilXshP1mQVuZ lpGwXQpqlL90XfZap9pXX7ZYAtivTdFKI3obl+Db6kani0YzxwwE5rwKKI6GczDYkh2rOY5grDmFU o5xfV3QZpW2mOxhG5c2BUae3YmNk9V27+Sm1jxok9M1jrZYOQgSF09MdpZLdpNqCknxoGkRDyxzmZ IhZ/gRj9ncguoW9KRMQR9aoSh5H3j9hze6ryZ8GFNtAHZxNoI1BGEERNtDm7foVXG4p1cI5M8y+lX OOSK2LU3GSHzuGKi8rQop34ABDCz0Sl5ZHQuRTE6nyWD+6+Z6Y/hW2dlOISvAVG86+C/RUgOIIdgM I7w4ZwXn+bsezL8cMipMVA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1711 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mqGTA-00062m-Sf; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 10:15:29 -0500 In-Reply-To: <612d659daa026d901515@heytings.org> (message from Gregory Heytings on Thu, 25 Nov 2021 14:55:15 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:220842 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2021 14:55:15 +0000 > From: Gregory Heytings > cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, larsi@gnus.org, 52053@debbugs.gnu.org > > > >> 4. Let-bind help-link-key-to-documentation to nil around the calls to > >> s-c-k to indicate that the calls to help-mode--add-function-link should > >> be skipped. ISTM that this is not generic enough, if in six months we > >> had another similar feature it would be necessary to let-bind two > >> variables around calls for non-*Help* buffers, and so forth. > > > > I think the best solution is to change the default value of > > help-link-key-to-documentation to be nil, and then bind it to non-nil in > > Help commands. > > > > I'm not sure I understand what additional feature you have in mind and > > how such an additional feature could be related to this discussion. So > > please elaborate on that part. > > > > I have no idea what that feature could be, but the > help-link-key-to-documentation feature was added a month ago, and > substitute-command-key is rather complex, so I can very well imagine that > a new help-frobnicate feature could be added in a not too far future. At which point we will either make it dependent on the same variable, or maybe rename the variable if its name no longer fits what it controls. Would that resolve the issue?