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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "समीर सिंह Sameer Singh" <lumarzeli30@gmail.com>
Cc: 55493@debbugs.gnu.org, visuweshm@gmail.com
Subject: bug#55493: [PATCH] Rename Oriya to Odia
Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 18:57:28 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83v8u2esuv.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOR1sLx+X_FLCdwMr-7W-SW04A4ANUAJiYNjKqjAJ_Tv3NHQKw@mail.gmail.com> (message from समीर सिंह Sameer Singh on Wed, 18 May 2022 21:08:09 +0530)

> From: समीर सिंह Sameer Singh <lumarzeli30@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 21:08:09 +0530
> Cc: Visuwesh <visuweshm@gmail.com>, 55493@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
>  The changes to HELLO do more that the above says.  I don't think I
>  understand the reason for the change in the "South Asia" line.
> 
> The South Asia line was correcting the Odia greeting, which I had changed previously (from "Listen" to
> "Namaskaar") 

Please reflect that in the log message.

>  This is unrelated, and I see no reason to rename the variable in a
>  backward-incompatible way.  It's just a variable, so it doesn't have
>  to be named rigorously correct.  If we were discussing new code, the
>  correction would have had its place, but not now, 16 years after it
>  was introduced.
> 
> This variable name is somewhat misleading. When I searched "iso 638", online to see whether the language
> codes were updated or not,
>  it showed me results for oven boards, later when searching "iso 638 languages" I realized that the correct
> standard number is 639.
> There was also a FIXME above it, so I fixed that.
> If there is a backward-compatible way to change it please tell me, or if you still feel the change is not
> warranted, I will revert this it.

A backward-compatible change would need to introduce an obsolete alias
with the old name.

>  I don't think we should rename variables and functions.  It's just a
>  lot of hassle for us (defalias etc.) and potentially for others, and
>  the gain is very small.  This variable doesn't even say "oriya", just
>  "ori".  Let's not be too radical here.
> 
> Then I should only rename in etc/HELLO, and in (set-language-info-alist) of lisp/language/indian.el.

Yes, I think so.

>  We cannot rename an input method we had for almost 20 years.  If there
>  is some way of having an alias for an input method (I don't think so,
>  but maybe I'm missing something), let's use that; otherwise we will
>  have either to leave the old name alone or define a new input method
>  that is an exact copy of the old one, except for the name and the
>  mode-line indicator.
> 
> How about I make a new Odia input system, just like the ones which I had made for the other scripts, and
> leave the old ones alone?

By "input system", do you mean a separate language-environment with a
separate input method?  That would be OK, I think.

Thanks.





  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-18 15:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-17 23:56 bug#55493: [PATCH] Rename Oriya to Odia समीर सिंह Sameer Singh
2022-05-18  4:27 ` Visuwesh
2022-05-18 12:47   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-18 15:38     ` समीर सिंह Sameer Singh
2022-05-18 15:57       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-05-18 16:20         ` समीर सिंह Sameer Singh
2022-05-18 16:50           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-18 20:32             ` समीर सिंह Sameer Singh
2022-05-19 12:36               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-19 19:34                 ` समीर सिंह Sameer Singh
2022-05-18 12:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-19 23:13   ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-19 23:21     ` समीर सिंह Sameer Singh
2022-05-20  6:54     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-21 22:47       ` Richard Stallman

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