From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#62762: 'make' often errors with "Org version mismatch" after pulling a new version of the code Date: Fri, 05 May 2023 13:38:32 +0300 Message-ID: <83v8h7hxlj.fsf@gnu.org> References: <17b74a48-94e1-9106-cc79-d31972313910@gutov.dev> <837cujaqzq.fsf@gnu.org> <87wn2ilwed.fsf@localhost> <83zg7ealrd.fsf@gnu.org> <87pm8a8dx4.fsf@localhost> <87pm7vt0mx.fsf@localhost> <87cz3k8i27.fsf@localhost> <87sfcfdldt.fsf@localhost> <87bkj1g10g.fsf@localhost> <1c5d0ff0-5bae-1123-d2f7-64d9013fbc0f@gmail.com> <6070e598-7dee-1b7a-7f97-26a90618cb7a@gmail.com> <64a61548-e343-992f-d193-d8ff4fe0623b@gmail.com> <831qjvjmw5.fsf@gnu.org> <48f15926-d002-877b-1d01-3a607fe42b76@gmail.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19167"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: yantar92@posteo.net, 62762@debbugs.gnu.org, bzg@gnu.org, dmitry@gutov.dev, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, acm@muc.de To: Max Nikulin Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri May 05 12:38:19 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1puspO-0004jz-5z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pusom-0001J3-3K; Fri, 05 May 2023 06:37:40 -0400 In-Reply-To: <48f15926-d002-877b-1d01-3a607fe42b76@gmail.com> (message from Max Nikulin on Fri, 5 May 2023 14:27:29 +0700) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:261082 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 5 May 2023 14:27:29 +0700 > Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, yantar92@posteo.net, bzg@gnu.org, > dmitry@gutov.dev, 62762@debbugs.gnu.org, acm@muc.de > From: Max Nikulin > > On 05/05/2023 13:46, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Fri, 5 May 2023 12:27:25 +0700 From: Max Nikulin > >> The robust way is to define compilation order through dependencies, > >> preferably autogenerated ones). > > > This doesn't work in Emacs, in general, due to circular dependencies. > > Could you, please, provide an example where circular dependencies are > unavoidable or cost of disentangling of mutual dependencies is prohibitive? What do you mean by "unavoidable"? > My general impression that behavior of code having circular dependencies > is harder to comprehend. AFAIR, the problem is that we use 'require', eval-when-compile etc. to get definitions of macros, functions, and variables. There's nothing difficult to comprehend in this.