From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#64518: 29.0.92; outline-mode sexp movement commands don't follow outline structure Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2023 21:19:39 +0300 Message-ID: <83v8eveg90.fsf@gnu.org> References: Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="767"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 64518@debbugs.gnu.org To: Spencer Baugh Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 07 20:20:24 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qHq48-000AbZ-9A for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2023 20:20:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qHq3r-0008Nb-6h; Fri, 07 Jul 2023 14:20:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qHq3m-0008NJ-8y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2023 14:20:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qHq3m-0000qI-0N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2023 14:20:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qHq3l-0000CD-P8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2023 14:20:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2023 18:20:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 64518 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 64518-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B64518.1688753993735 (code B ref 64518); Fri, 07 Jul 2023 18:20:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 64518) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jul 2023 18:19:53 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43721 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qHq3c-0000Bm-Mk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2023 14:19:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50012) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qHq3a-0000BO-13 for 64518@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2023 14:19:50 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qHq3M-0007uw-Dh; Fri, 07 Jul 2023 14:19:44 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=H6XTHw5WzlL/aR97drPaVXcD0ibHM3fxdm2p+uz/n30=; b=XeTq0WdeeU6d ftXNjmuUiMBprWmXxSKHAZTUVHTvlpl/Q48jqzBJrGaCjAaq/7dyaz2hDIjrPlXsjaHKxnDCctFnw OIU6kNyCjzkV+V7xaj15+5+8lOR1rloFjwjuuDCNnZ9KwKY0xiAg2VBhRuqwqlR0Siy/38Txhi/N0 aPo/9vwUybSpPcCMj8obSynyoOaYpQoicLNEIMPdCnVF1KF4f4FdOM9sw7VoOHWKXDKFnJHd9RNkc kvNYicnpu3v7OnYU8j8DUblPu4MgEoRyr6Cwt8nqpqVIot3KJAPvUyY40ShgXCkP62OmMAWnXfuNU Ej4heCGYg0EzdDKSZJn52A==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qHq3L-0005wc-UR; Fri, 07 Jul 2023 14:19:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Spencer Baugh on Fri, 07 Jul 2023 12:21:14 -0400) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:264742 Archived-At: > From: Spencer Baugh > Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2023 12:21:14 -0400 > > > Functions like C-M-f (forward-sexp) and C-M-SPC (mark-sexp) are supposed > to be configured by individual modes to behave in a way appropriate for > that mode. But outline-mode does not do this. outline-mode is not a programming-language mode, so sexp-related commands make no sense for it. It is more related to text-mode. Outline mode and its derivatives already have motion commands that move in terms of headings and trees/subtrees. I see no reason to confuse users with some kind of artificial notion of "sexps" applied to text. So I think your feature request is a step in the wrong direction.