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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: 19576@debbugs.gnu.org, andlind@gmail.com
Subject: bug#19576: write-file writes the wrong buffer
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 17:44:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83twoi803t.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <564D8482.20804@gmx.at>

> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 09:12:50 +0100
> From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
> CC: andlind@gmail.com, 19576@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
>  > Thanks for working on this, Martin.  However, I don't think we should
>  > install this change.  We call Lisp hooks from many places, including
>  > maybe a dozen in the display engine.  It makes little sense to make
>  > only one of them resistant to this kind of problems.  OTOH, if we do
>  > this everywhere, I feel that we will unduly punish 99.999% percent of
>  > legitimate users of these hooks just because one of them had a bug.
> 
> 100% agreed.  But run_window_configuration_change_hook goes a long way
> saving and restoring current buffer and selected window around each call
> to a function on ‘window-configuration-change-hook’.

That function isn't called by the display engine, but only by a
handful of functions that react to changes in windows.  So I really
don't consider that to be an analogous case, sorry.

> People who put their functions on ‘window-size-change-functions’ and
> ‘window-configuration-change-hook’ usually don't care about the precise
> reason why these function get called.  They simply want to cover all
> cases where a new window appears or a specific window changes size.  Do
> we really expect them to add a ‘save-window-excursion’ in one case and
> avoid it in the other because it would mean unnecessary extra work?

Yes, we do.  Hooks called by the display engine should be coded very
carefully, because they are a large part of that proverbial rope that
Emacs gives us to hang ourselves.  If they don't write those hooks
with great care, they get what they deserve.





  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-19 15:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-12 23:37 bug#19576: 24.4; Broken function in `window-size-change-functions' cause `write-file' to write the wrong buffer Anders Lindgren
2015-11-16 19:18 ` bug#19576: write-file writes " Anders Lindgren
2015-11-16 19:46   ` martin rudalics
2015-11-16 20:05     ` Anders Lindgren
2015-11-17  0:55       ` Juri Linkov
2015-11-17 20:02         ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-17 21:52           ` Anders Lindgren
2015-11-18  0:27             ` Juri Linkov
2015-11-18  1:37               ` Drew Adams
2015-11-18  7:54               ` Anders Lindgren
2015-11-18 17:45           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-18 23:23             ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-19 16:03               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-20  8:22                 ` martin rudalics
2015-11-20 10:17                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-20 10:48                     ` martin rudalics
2015-11-20 11:16                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-20 11:25                         ` martin rudalics
2015-11-20 11:40                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-20 14:21                             ` martin rudalics
2015-11-20 14:54                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-21 11:35                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-21 15:56                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-21 16:01                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-21 16:49                       ` Anders Lindgren
2015-11-21 17:10                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-21 18:27                         ` martin rudalics
2015-11-21 18:33                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-21 18:44                             ` martin rudalics
2015-11-21 19:08                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-21 20:33                                 ` Anders Lindgren
2015-11-22 10:44                                 ` martin rudalics
2015-11-22 15:36                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-21 16:02                     ` bug#21333: " Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-22 11:08                   ` martin rudalics
2015-11-22 15:39                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-22 17:46                       ` martin rudalics
2015-11-23 18:21                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-23 18:28                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-24  8:27                           ` martin rudalics
2015-11-24 16:19                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-28 10:26                   ` martin rudalics
2015-11-28 11:27                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-30 13:30                       ` martin rudalics
2015-11-30 16:28                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-30 17:27                           ` martin rudalics
2015-11-19  8:13             ` martin rudalics
2015-11-19 15:45               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-20  8:22                 ` martin rudalics
2015-11-20  8:34                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-20 10:25                     ` martin rudalics
2015-11-20 11:15                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-20 11:25                         ` martin rudalics
2015-11-20 11:39                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-20 14:21                             ` martin rudalics
2015-11-20 11:32                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-20 11:41                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-17 21:15         ` Anders Lindgren
2015-11-18 17:52           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-18 19:23             ` Anders Lindgren
2015-11-18 20:52               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-19  2:06                 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-19  6:54                 ` Anders Lindgren
2015-11-19 15:31                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-22 18:44                     ` Johan Bockgård
2015-11-22 18:55                       ` Johan Bockgård
2015-11-22 19:02                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-17  8:34       ` martin rudalics
2015-11-17 19:08         ` Anders Lindgren
2015-11-18 17:24         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-19  8:12           ` martin rudalics
2015-11-19 15:44             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2015-11-20  8:22               ` martin rudalics
2015-11-20  8:32                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] ` <mailman.9.1447720293.31583.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-11-17 22:10   ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-18  7:09     ` martin rudalics
2015-11-20 20:17 ` bug#19576: Fixed: " Anders Lindgren

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