From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23529: Request for fixing randomize_va_space build issues Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2016 22:18:39 +0300 Message-ID: <83twdsalbk.fsf@gnu.org> References: <573C2601.3030308@cs.ucla.edu> <54b89449-083a-a906-986a-f284dbbf482a@cs.ucla.edu> <02c57124-ef39-bc30-89ba-998986d070fc@cs.ucla.edu> <834m5tapuu.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1473196497 12357 195.159.176.226 (6 Sep 2016 21:14:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:14:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: p.stephani2@gmail.com, philippe.vaucher@gmail.com, 23529@debbugs.gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 06 23:14:53 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bhNhh-0002Ma-Ox for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Sep 2016 23:14:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35745 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bhLyt-0001pL-KW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Sep 2016 15:24:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49190) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bhLuf-0006xL-8Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Sep 2016 15:20:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bhLuc-0007xZ-1Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Sep 2016 15:20:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:54021) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bhLub-0007xU-VD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Sep 2016 15:20:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bhLub-00014N-OK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Sep 2016 15:20:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2016 19:20:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23529 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23529-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23529.14731895604057 (code B ref 23529); Tue, 06 Sep 2016 19:20:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23529) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Sep 2016 19:19:20 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51733 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bhLtw-00013N-9B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Sep 2016 15:19:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58006) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bhLtv-00013B-6b for 23529@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Sep 2016 15:19:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bhLtm-0007jc-UX for 23529@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Sep 2016 15:19:14 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59394) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bhLtm-0007jY-R7; Tue, 06 Sep 2016 15:19:10 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1157 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bhLtj-0004v2-Ro; Tue, 06 Sep 2016 15:19:10 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Paul Eggert on Tue, 6 Sep 2016 11:44:57 -0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:123043 Archived-At: > Cc: p.stephani2@gmail.com, philippe.vaucher@gmail.com, 23529@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Paul Eggert > Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 11:44:57 -0700 > > On 09/06/2016 10:40 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > So we will be giving up the ability of end-users to re-dump their > > Emacs, unless they have a compiler/binutils installed that are > > compatible with the ones used to build the Emacs binary? > > No, the idea would be to keep the current undump as-is, and to use the > new mechanism when building and installing Emacs. That way, end-users > would not lose any abilities that they already have. It's OK that new > mechanism would work on some platforms where the current undump does not. Then users on those platforms will never be able to re-dump. I actually don't understand why the data should be serialized as C code. Why not just data that is read into memory (with conversion to the native format)? A compiler is not the only way to convert text into binary data.