From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#27844: 26.0.50; Dired w/ eshell-ls doesn't support wildcards in file name Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2017 21:43:41 +0300 Message-ID: <83tw1ryvqa.fsf@gnu.org> References: <878tjasgom.fsf@calancha-pc> <87h8xyutc3.fsf@calancha-pc> <83inib393n.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgn4j8ko.fsf@calancha-pc> <8360e71k5p.fsf@gnu.org> <83wp6nz4ce.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1501613118 9447 195.159.176.226 (1 Aug 2017 18:45:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 18:45:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 27844@debbugs.gnu.org To: Tino Calancha Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 01 20:45:11 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dccAF-0001rj-9m for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2017 20:45:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44053 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dccAL-0001AI-EA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2017 14:45:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47134) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dccAF-00018l-Jg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2017 14:45:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dccAA-0006OI-Lu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2017 14:45:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:34574) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dccAA-0006OC-I0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2017 14:45:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dccAA-0008CX-BE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2017 14:45:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2017 18:45:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 27844 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 27844-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B27844.150161306831468 (code B ref 27844); Tue, 01 Aug 2017 18:45:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 27844) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Aug 2017 18:44:28 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37251 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dcc9a-0008BT-PX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2017 14:44:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56048) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dcc9Z-0008BI-RH for 27844@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2017 14:44:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dcc9M-0005nE-Qx for 27844@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2017 14:44:17 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:33487) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dcc9M-0005n7-N5; Tue, 01 Aug 2017 14:44:12 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4961 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dcc9J-0002Me-Sp; Tue, 01 Aug 2017 14:44:12 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Tino Calancha on Wed, 2 Aug 2017 01:04:20 +0900 (JST)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:135228 Archived-At: > From: Tino Calancha > Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 01:04:20 +0900 (JST) > cc: Tino Calancha , 27844@debbugs.gnu.org > > 1) I am imaging one user in a system without an external 'ls' installed. > > 2) This hypothetical user wants to use Dired; after searching the web, > find s?he could do it via eshell. > > 3) I assume this user is not interested in the eshell internals: just want > to have Dired running without complications. That means > 'eshell-error-if-no-glob' keeps its default, nil. How about binding eshell-error-if-no-glob to non-nil when eshell/ls is called from Dired, then? > I like the idea that Dired behaves uniformsly regardless on if we are > using an external 'ls' or an elisp emulation of it. That's an unreachable ideal, because there are too many versions of 'ls' out there. GNU 'ls' is just one of them. And sometimes the error comes from the shell which expands wildcards, not from 'ls' itself.