From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#33191: 26.1.50; remove remaining process input batching doc Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2018 18:32:44 +0200 Message-ID: <83tvjm3bkj.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8336r650jp.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1544373129 29047 195.159.176.226 (9 Dec 2018 16:32:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2018 16:32:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 33191@debbugs.gnu.org To: charles@aurox.ch Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 09 17:32:05 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gW1zv-0007Rg-AY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Dec 2018 17:32:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55901 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gW222-0004su-5C for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Dec 2018 11:34:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53468) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gW21t-0004sp-Bv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Dec 2018 11:34:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gW21q-0006Qq-21 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Dec 2018 11:34:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:35922) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gW21p-0006Qi-UK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Dec 2018 11:34:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gW21p-000476-QU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Dec 2018 11:34:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2018 16:34:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33191 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 33191-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B33191.154437319015743 (code B ref 33191); Sun, 09 Dec 2018 16:34:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 33191) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Dec 2018 16:33:10 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40180 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gW20y-00045q-W5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Dec 2018 11:33:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43620) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gW20x-00045b-IW for 33191@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Dec 2018 11:33:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gW20p-00058O-AQ for 33191@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Dec 2018 11:33:02 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:43159) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gW20p-00058I-6R; Sun, 09 Dec 2018 11:32:59 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3618 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gW20o-0006eo-PP; Sun, 09 Dec 2018 11:32:59 -0500 In-reply-to: (charles@aurox.ch) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:153265 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2018 17:15:49 +0100 > From: charles@aurox.ch (Charles A. Roelli) > CC: 33191@debbugs.gnu.org > > > Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2018 14:47:54 +0200 > > From: Eli Zaretskii > > > > Thanks, but this removes too much, IMO. The 500 bytes figure should > > go away, but we still send the string in chunks, albeit > > system-dependent ones, and we still allow output from processes to > > arrive between chunks. > > True, but it seems like chunked sending is broken somehow: Bug#6149 > (GNU/Linux) and Bug#32438 (macOS) both show this. The former is supposed to be solved. > (There may be similar problems on MS Windows; I have not tested.) > If we say that sending is done in chunks, users might infer that > there are no such problems. I don't see how such a conclusion could follow. IMO, it's important to tell that we send large strings in smaller chunks, because otherwise some phenomena might come as a surprise. > Maybe we can add that system-dependent problems may occur for input > longer than 1 kB. I don't think we should document bugs. We should solve them instead.