From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#33921: 27.0.50; Default height is inconsistently - and apparently also incorrectly - documented Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 20:52:53 +0200 Message-ID: <83tviu4zju.fsf@gnu.org> References: <877efrxrpe.fsf@metalevel.at> <5C28DCEB.909@gmx.at> <83zhsn3uk9.fsf@gnu.org> <5C290495.5060207@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1546195929 18389 195.159.176.226 (30 Dec 2018 18:52:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 18:52:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 33921@debbugs.gnu.org, triska@metalevel.at To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 30 19:52:05 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdgBx-0004gL-4J for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 19:52:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45929 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdgE3-0004lm-SA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 13:54:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54240) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdgDw-0004lZ-Od for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 13:54:09 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdgDq-0001ag-Fo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 13:54:08 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:47266) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdgDq-0001aF-2x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 13:54:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdgDp-00026o-Tj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 13:54:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 18:54:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33921 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 33921-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B33921.15461960008036 (code B ref 33921); Sun, 30 Dec 2018 18:54:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 33921) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2018 18:53:20 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42598 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdgD9-00025Y-Rl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 13:53:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59410) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdgD8-00025Q-5X for 33921@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 13:53:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdgD0-0000q5-4w for 33921@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 13:53:15 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:47350) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdgD0-0000ps-1e; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 13:53:10 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4908 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gdgCz-0002u6-5e; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 13:53:09 -0500 In-reply-to: <5C290495.5060207@gmx.at> (message from martin rudalics on Sun, 30 Dec 2018 18:47:01 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:154031 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 18:47:01 +0100 > From: martin rudalics > CC: triska@metalevel.at, 33921@debbugs.gnu.org > > > I actually think we shouldn't promise any concrete value, and instead > > say something vague, like "between 35 and 40, depending on the OS and > > the window manager". > > The value of evaluating (frame-height) should be 36 if nothing special > has been specified. That's definitely not true for TTY frames. > So before becoming vague let's wait until we have a report (maybe the > present one) that demonstrates that a value of 36 cannot be obtained. Fine with me, but I'd be very surprised if we conclude that 36 is an accurate number in enough situations to cite it in the manual.