From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#35885: 25.2; Few mistakes in Emacs Manual (+ proposals) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 20:01:06 +0300 Message-ID: <83tvcx9xyl.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83k1e2tym6.fsf@gnu.org> <835zpltme6.fsf@gnu.org> <83muiwrn2u.fsf@gnu.org> <1583c6b3-2421-794d-8c8b-86287ef3fd5a@gmail.com> <83tvczb236.fsf@gnu.org> <616312d4-0faf-0382-3f21-5b66327d8d8b@gmail.com> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="60243"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 35885@debbugs.gnu.org To: Sebastian Urban Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 10 19:17:20 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1haNv6-000FX8-Jo for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 19:17:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48486 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1haNuy-0001YM-7X for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 13:17:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51363) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1haNsk-0008Pg-5X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 13:14:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1haNgI-0000X4-U3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 13:02:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:43901) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1haNgI-0000We-NN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 13:02:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1haNgI-0007QB-Gi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 13:02:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 17:02:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 35885 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 35885-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B35885.156018608328479 (code B ref 35885); Mon, 10 Jun 2019 17:02:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 35885) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jun 2019 17:01:23 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57445 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1haNff-0007PH-5Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 13:01:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39881) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1haNfd-0007P4-Eq for 35885@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 13:01:21 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54729) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1haNfX-0008Rb-R3; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 13:01:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3930 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1haNfR-000496-Jl; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 13:01:12 -0400 In-reply-to: <616312d4-0faf-0382-3f21-5b66327d8d8b@gmail.com> (message from Sebastian Urban on Mon, 10 Jun 2019 12:30:52 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:160334 Archived-At: > From: Sebastian Urban > Cc: 35885@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 12:30:52 +0200 > > In KILLING.TEXI - L125-127: > leaves @var{n} spaces before point if @var{n} is positive; if @var{n} > is negative, it deletes newlines in addition to spaces and tabs, > -leaving @var{-n} spaces before point. The command @code{cycle-spacing} > +leaving @var{n} spaces before point. The command @code{cycle-spacing} > > There 'n' stands just for number of spaces, so no need for negative > or positive mark. Also documentation string in SIMPLE.EL for > 'just-one-space' will need correction, because there is '-N'. I don't think I understand (and if I do, I disagree). The text says: if N is negative, ... leaving -N spaces before point. When N is negative, -N is positive, so the original text sounds correct to me. > With a positive numeric argument @var{n}, it leaves @var{n} spaces > before point; if @var{n} is negative, it also deletes newlines. This has the same problem as omitting the minus sign in your suggestion above. Thanks.