From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19812: 24.4; suggest `shell-mode' not interactive Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2019 10:22:44 +0300 Message-ID: <83tvayemrf.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87bnl5qc50.fsf@blah.blah> <87v9vfmjke.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="222849"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: user42_kevin@yahoo.com.au, 19812@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 03 09:23:13 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1htoNg-000vo4-QG for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Aug 2019 09:23:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38810 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htoNf-0006UG-SS for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Aug 2019 03:23:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59987) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htoNb-0006Ty-G4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Aug 2019 03:23:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1htoNa-0000hd-MN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Aug 2019 03:23:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:49429) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1htoNa-0000hZ-JX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Aug 2019 03:23:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htoNa-0007ZH-Fl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Aug 2019 03:23:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2019 07:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19812 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 19812-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19812.156481697829066 (code B ref 19812); Sat, 03 Aug 2019 07:23:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19812) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Aug 2019 07:22:58 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58250 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htoNW-0007Yh-0Y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 03 Aug 2019 03:22:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47584) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htoNU-0007YV-4a for 19812@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 03 Aug 2019 03:22:56 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53652) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1htoNM-0000Rh-He; Sat, 03 Aug 2019 03:22:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1224 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1htoNL-00036Q-IR; Sat, 03 Aug 2019 03:22:48 -0400 In-reply-to: <87v9vfmjke.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Fri, 02 Aug 2019 21:52:17 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:164417 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2019 21:52:17 +0200 > Cc: 19812@debbugs.gnu.org > > As you point out, there's a lot of modes that only make sense in certain > limited contexts, and having them be interactive isn't very helpful. > I'm not sure it's that much of a problem in general, but it is a > particular an issue with `shell-mode', since I'd guess that a lot of > people type that instead of `M-x shell-script-mode' when starting to > write new shell scripts. > > The following fixes this particular issue. Would something like this be > welcome? Are there no valid use cases where invoking shell-mode interactively makes sense? If there are such use cases, we cannot disallow them now.