From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#46627: [PATCH] Add new help command 'describe-command' Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2021 14:59:24 +0200 Message-ID: <83tuq6zyhf.fsf@gnu.org> References: <835z2o4fes.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8geq4nq.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3360"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: stefan@marxist.se, 46627@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 20 14:00:18 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lDRru-0000kX-9Q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 14:00:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47358 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDRrs-0007j0-VU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 08:00:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35920) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDRrf-0007ig-CM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 08:00:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:39676) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDRre-0005RZ-K7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 08:00:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lDRre-0000Tx-Jd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 08:00:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2021 13:00:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 46627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 46627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B46627.16138259911803 (code B ref 46627); Sat, 20 Feb 2021 13:00:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 46627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Feb 2021 12:59:51 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51222 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lDRrS-0000T0-Ol for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 07:59:51 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46212) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lDRrQ-0000So-U1 for 46627@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 07:59:49 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42612) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDRrK-0005J1-Tw; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 07:59:43 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4959 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lDRrH-00013w-38; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 07:59:40 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87o8geq4nq.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sat, 20 Feb 2021 13:56:09 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:200425 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 46627@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2021 13:56:09 +0100 > > `C-h c' would be more natural for this command, and the `c' mnemonic for > `describe-key-briefly' is pretty weak -- I'm guessing it ended up there > because `C-h k' and `C-h K' were already taken? No, I think it's because 'c' stands for "character". > But I agree 100% with Eli that we can't change `C-h c' -- it's a key > binding that I think is deeply ingrained in many people's muscle memory. Yes, there should be a limit to moving such old bindings. > I do, however, think that `C-h x' isn't that bad of a binding for > `describe-command', really. I agree.