From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#48504: Improve style of C-h t description (Preface) Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 17:06:11 +0300 Message-ID: <83tumyq0mk.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83im3frgsr.fsf@gnu.org> <3195631d-1f4c-2b55-b7ed-9bb919458c76@gmail.com> <83h7izqx4l.fsf@gnu.org> <837djvq6n2.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25897"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 48504@debbugs.gnu.org To: Sebastian Urban Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed May 19 16:07:13 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ljMqt-0006ST-JJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 19 May 2021 16:07:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59888 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ljMqs-0006aV-Jf for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 19 May 2021 10:07:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51934) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ljMqk-0006VR-I7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 May 2021 10:07:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:48814) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ljMqk-0002zZ-9Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 May 2021 10:07:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ljMqk-0004dp-2z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 May 2021 10:07:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 14:07:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 48504 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 48504-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B48504.162143317617777 (code B ref 48504); Wed, 19 May 2021 14:07:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 48504) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 May 2021 14:06:16 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60360 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ljMq0-0004cf-Gp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 May 2021 10:06:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58074) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ljMpy-0004cP-9p for 48504@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 May 2021 10:06:14 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49908) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ljMps-0002LP-Uk; Wed, 19 May 2021 10:06:08 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3241 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ljMpp-0007WW-LD; Wed, 19 May 2021 10:06:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Sebastian Urban on Wed, 19 May 2021 15:44:51 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:206890 Archived-At: > Cc: 48504@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Sebastian Urban > Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 15:44:51 +0200 > > >> No, I mean to change this: > >> (which is ``control h and then t'') > >> into this: > >> (hold down @key{Control} and type @kbd{h}, then let go of > >> @key{Control} and type @kbd{t}) > > > > That's awkward. > > What exactly? It's basically copy-paste from SCREEN.TEXI (L126). Is it > awkward there as well? Maybe, I didn't look. > > How about > > > > To run the tutorial, start Emacs and type @kbd{C-h t} (that is, > > press and hold Control, then type h, then release Control and type > > t). > > Why @kbd/@key (commands for indication) can't be used here for > "Control"/"h"/"t"? Because we didn't yet explain this notation, that comes later in the manual.