* bug#3956: 23.1.50; Scrolling ugliness [not found] <1248783530.20666.1327145393@webmail.messagingengine.com> @ 2019-11-02 5:56 ` Stefan Kangas 2021-08-21 20:40 ` bug#3956: Happens on Windows too Ville-Markus Yli-Suutala 1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Stefan Kangas @ 2019-11-02 5:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Otto Maddox; +Cc: 3956 retitle 3956 Scroll bar thumb changes size when scrolling on macOS found 3956 27.0.50 thanks "Otto Maddox" <ottomaddox@fastmail.fm> writes: > When scrolling up and down by using the keyboard, or dragging the scroll > bar thumb, the thumb will noticeably change size. This is ugly and very > distracting. I can verify this still happens on macOS using current master. > Worse, trying to use the scroll wheel results in motion which is > jagged, unpredictable and ridiculously sensitive, and usually > overshoots so badly that it's completely useless. I think this has since been fixed. Best regards, Stefan Kangas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* bug#3956: Happens on Windows too [not found] <1248783530.20666.1327145393@webmail.messagingengine.com> 2019-11-02 5:56 ` bug#3956: 23.1.50; Scrolling ugliness Stefan Kangas @ 2021-08-21 20:40 ` Ville-Markus Yli-Suutala 2021-08-22 6:06 ` Eli Zaretskii 1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Ville-Markus Yli-Suutala @ 2021-08-21 20:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 3956 Height of the scrollbar thumb changes while scrolling on Windows too. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* bug#3956: Happens on Windows too 2021-08-21 20:40 ` bug#3956: Happens on Windows too Ville-Markus Yli-Suutala @ 2021-08-22 6:06 ` Eli Zaretskii 2021-08-22 20:35 ` Ville-Markus Yli-Suutala 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2021-08-22 6:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ville-Markus Yli-Suutala; +Cc: 3956 > From: Ville-Markus Yli-Suutala <villemarkus.ylisuutala@gmail.com> > Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 23:40:48 +0300 > > Height of the scrollbar thumb changes while scrolling on Windows too. That's how the scroll-bar thumb was designed to work in Emacs. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* bug#3956: Happens on Windows too 2021-08-22 6:06 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2021-08-22 20:35 ` Ville-Markus Yli-Suutala 2021-08-23 2:23 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Ville-Markus Yli-Suutala @ 2021-08-22 20:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 3956 On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 9:06 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote: > > > From: Ville-Markus Yli-Suutala <villemarkus.ylisuutala@gmail.com> > > Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 23:40:48 +0300 > > > > Height of the scrollbar thumb changes while scrolling on Windows too. > > That's how the scroll-bar thumb was designed to work in Emacs. By height changing I mean the tallness of the thumb, not its position on the scrollbar. My display resolution is 1920 x 1080. If I start Emacs with emacs -Q, click the maximize window button in the top right corner, and go to the tutorial by pressing C-h t. The scrollbar thumb is now 24 pixels tall. Now if I press C-v to scroll down, the scrollbar thumb grows to be 42 pixels tall. Is it actually meant to work this way? GTK+ Emacs on my Debian machine does not change the size of the scrollbar thumb as I scroll. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* bug#3956: Happens on Windows too 2021-08-22 20:35 ` Ville-Markus Yli-Suutala @ 2021-08-23 2:23 ` Eli Zaretskii 2024-07-25 13:31 ` bug#3956: Scroll bar thumb changes size when scrolling on macOS Stefan Kangas 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2021-08-23 2:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ville-Markus Yli-Suutala; +Cc: 3956 > From: Ville-Markus Yli-Suutala <villemarkus.ylisuutala@gmail.com> > Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 23:35:43 +0300 > Cc: 3956@debbugs.gnu.org > > On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 9:06 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote: > > > > > From: Ville-Markus Yli-Suutala <villemarkus.ylisuutala@gmail.com> > > > Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 23:40:48 +0300 > > > > > > Height of the scrollbar thumb changes while scrolling on Windows too. > > > > That's how the scroll-bar thumb was designed to work in Emacs. > > By height changing I mean the tallness of the thumb, not its position > on the scrollbar. Yes, that's what I meant. > My display resolution is 1920 x 1080. If I start > Emacs with emacs -Q, click the maximize window button in the top right > corner, and go to the tutorial by pressing C-h t. The scrollbar thumb > is now 24 pixels tall. Now if I press C-v to scroll down, the > scrollbar thumb grows to be 42 pixels tall. > > Is it actually meant to work this way? GTK+ Emacs on my Debian machine > does not change the size of the scrollbar thumb as I scroll. The thumb reflects the size in characters, not in screen lines, so it cannot be constant as you scroll, especially if lines in the buffer differ a lot in their length. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* bug#3956: Scroll bar thumb changes size when scrolling on macOS 2021-08-23 2:23 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-07-25 13:31 ` Stefan Kangas 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Stefan Kangas @ 2024-07-25 13:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: Ville-Markus Yli-Suutala, 3956 tags 3956 + notabug close 3956 thanks Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes: >> From: Ville-Markus Yli-Suutala <villemarkus.ylisuutala@gmail.com> >> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 23:35:43 +0300 >> Cc: 3956@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 9:06 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote: >> > >> > > From: Ville-Markus Yli-Suutala <villemarkus.ylisuutala@gmail.com> >> > > Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 23:40:48 +0300 >> > > >> > > Height of the scrollbar thumb changes while scrolling on Windows too. >> > >> > That's how the scroll-bar thumb was designed to work in Emacs. >> >> By height changing I mean the tallness of the thumb, not its position >> on the scrollbar. > > Yes, that's what I meant. > >> My display resolution is 1920 x 1080. If I start >> Emacs with emacs -Q, click the maximize window button in the top right >> corner, and go to the tutorial by pressing C-h t. The scrollbar thumb >> is now 24 pixels tall. Now if I press C-v to scroll down, the >> scrollbar thumb grows to be 42 pixels tall. >> >> Is it actually meant to work this way? GTK+ Emacs on my Debian machine >> does not change the size of the scrollbar thumb as I scroll. > > The thumb reflects the size in characters, not in screen lines, so it > cannot be constant as you scroll, especially if lines in the buffer > differ a lot in their length. Then I conclude that this works as designed on macOS, and I'm closing this bug. (That said, this is an unusual feature, IMHO.) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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