From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#50880: Add "Contributing to Emacs" help command (see C-h C-h) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2021 21:58:09 +0300 Message-ID: <83tui0d132.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8735pndfna.fsf@gnus.org> <878rzf9xtk.fsf@gnus.org> <25d8d72022560012a303@heytings.org> <87a6jtw6ki.fsf@gnus.org> <83zgrtdp6e.fsf@gnu.org> <87r1d5xczc.fsf@gnus.org> <83v92hdop9.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtntxcfd.fsf@gnus.org> <83r1d5dn7o.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19472"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 50880@debbugs.gnu.org, gregory@heytings.org, larsi@gnus.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 01 20:59:24 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mWNki-0004uv-FW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 20:59:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41196 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWNkh-0002lZ-3m for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 14:59:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52680) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWNkM-0002kW-BH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 14:59:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:45792) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWNkM-0001W3-3X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 14:59:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mWNkL-0006p3-PU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 14:59:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2021 18:59:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 50880 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 50880-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B50880.163311471926194 (code B ref 50880); Fri, 01 Oct 2021 18:59:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 50880) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2021 18:58:39 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57338 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mWNjz-0006oQ-Cu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 14:58:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47388) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mWNjv-0006oC-B0 for 50880@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 14:58:37 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53924) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWNjo-0000wY-MG; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 14:58:28 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1192 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWNjo-0006oK-9q; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 14:58:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Fri, 1 Oct 2021 20:45:54 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:216076 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 20:45:54 +0200 > Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Gregory Heytings , 50880@debbugs.gnu.org > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > And I already said what I think about it: to me it sounds like a waste > > to reserve a C-h key for that. It doesn't even belong to "help" per > > se, IMO. > > Whether or not it belongs should not be treated formalistically, > because then we might as well remove the entry "About the GNU > project". No, because "About" is a de-facto standard item in the Help menu of many programs. We just made 2 of them instead of just one. > The point of this is to encourage more contributions to Emacs, and > the cost for doing so is low. But why does it need a key binding? Not every command has a key binding, and not having one doesn't mean the command isn't important. Assigning a key binding is NOT low-cost, especially in a crowded keymap such as C-h.