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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Visuwesh <visuweshm@gmail.com>
Cc: 56237@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#56237: 29.0.50; delete-forward-char fails to delete character
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2022 20:26:56 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83tu878hen.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bkuf9wx4.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Visuwesh on Sun, 26 Jun 2022 22:36:31 +0530)

> From: Visuwesh <visuweshm@gmail.com>
> Cc: 56237@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2022 22:36:31 +0530
> 
> > Invoke find-composition, and you will see that it returns a single
> > composition there.
> 
> If find-composition is indeed right, then the return value is very
> unintuvitive as a native speaker: ப் and போ are two separate characters
> and combining them into a single cluster is weird...  

Maybe you are right, but then Someone(TM) will have to either modify
find-composition or explain how to interpret its return value
differently from what we do now.  What is now in delete-forward-char
expresses my level of knowledge in this area, which admittedly is
limited.

> Am I right in thinking that a grapheme cluster is made up of characters
> that can be grouped together to produce a single "letter" on screen?

The fact that you quote "letter" already means that we have
terminology problem, because I don't think you will be able to define
it rigorously enough for this purpose.

I don't think we have a definition of a grapheme cluster in Emacs
terms that is always correct, given that these decisions are in many
cases delegated to the shaping engine.

> If so, the behaviour of find-composition is still confusing since I
> need to say C-f twice to move over ப்போ.

Could be.  If it confuses too much, you are free to use delete-char to
delete one codepoint at a time.  What delete-forward-char codes is a
convenience feature, so if it is sub-optimal in some rare cases,
that's not a catastrophe, I think.





  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-26 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-26 16:07 bug#56237: 29.0.50; delete-forward-char fails to delete character visuweshm
2022-06-26 16:13 ` Visuwesh
2022-06-26 16:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-26 16:24   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-26 16:25   ` Visuwesh
2022-06-26 16:36     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-26 16:47       ` Visuwesh
2022-06-26 16:57         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-26 17:06           ` Visuwesh
2022-06-26 17:26             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-06-26 18:01               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-27  5:31               ` Visuwesh
2022-06-27  5:47                 ` Visuwesh
2022-06-27 12:39                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-27 14:24                     ` Visuwesh
2022-06-27 15:53                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-02  7:03                         ` Visuwesh
2022-07-16 12:50                           ` Visuwesh
2022-07-16 13:31                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-16 13:43                               ` Visuwesh
2022-06-26 16:38     ` Eli Zaretskii

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