From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#57880: 28.1; Emacs crashes with native compilation on when some antivirus program is running on MS-Windows Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2022 11:26:19 +0300 Message-ID: <83tu4zstlg.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83o7v9ugv2.fsf@gnu.org> <83czbnud9d.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3660"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 57880@debbugs.gnu.org, akrl@sdf.org To: Ioannis Kappas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 22 10:27:26 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1obHYM-0000m4-49 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 10:27:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37812 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1obHYK-0003OK-He for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 04:27:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34594) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1obHXy-0003O0-G6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 04:27:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:37156) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1obHXy-0000hh-6s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 04:27:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1obHXy-0006Yf-1N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 04:27:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2022 08:27:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 57880 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 57880-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B57880.166383517725136 (code B ref 57880); Thu, 22 Sep 2022 08:27:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 57880) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Sep 2022 08:26:17 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36228 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1obHXF-0006XM-HJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 04:26:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43530) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1obHXD-0006X1-VG for 57880@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 04:26:16 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33554) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1obHX7-0000UR-Oi; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 04:26:09 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=yr5LJomSGBQL1SAiSzcE4KpFuOuzHqD8kDgeai9FSW8=; b=S/ns0uyMnFv/ fVKacqB0BkQkh8zacBQM8n/01R267Lv7GJyAp6FWDBGOgdIssblZmZJDXcU5Xz8RswigEnl7QtG4D 5yKD3lx8eWIp7lnqlcu907aHGV6ZHOLMJz/O6/29CqCoiIJSFz0KHnJxnia2ac2ydye5z0r7/qEYs 5rOhdru346WlBBvX7p6GAtY+BbgJOC2lI3b8m4UydPxhDO8D2jVFs1y3cEeyf/GgAseFU3IVlX6en SKCnQ6D1dNNrM6EVixd4PrWFLPZWaRIYvn92JIwcF6BRYZ28YbFfuDyI/Q9IN1OX21ZmC+j9ItsbI 4hYvFjMGJSntwWzCiVtBdw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4811 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1obHX6-0008Jr-G1; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 04:26:09 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Ioannis Kappas on Thu, 22 Sep 2022 07:55:03 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:243404 Archived-At: > From: Ioannis Kappas > Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2022 07:55:03 +0100 > Cc: akrl@sdf.org, 57880@debbugs.gnu.org > > Or could there be an early init option to bypass the native compilation. This > way the users can test the issue with is native comp. There is one already. > > Why does the directory where the *.eln files live matter? Doesn't the > > antivirus software check any loading of any DLL from anywhere on the > > system? > > Perhaps it only matters for the User directory. AVs want to put more > stricter control > on the binaries the user downloads and installs themselves. Is that known, or is this just a guess? Also, I asked which AV software has this problem. Do you happen to know? Anyway, programs are not normally installed under C:\Users, they are installed under C:\Program Files. > > In any case, the *.eln files have at least two places on any system, > > and only one of them can be changed, the other one is fixed by the > > build. > > Those precompiled with Emacs are fine in this use case since they are > not stored in the Users directory, it's only newly compiled files that > exhibit this issue because they store the .eln files in the user dir by > default. This means that the problem will only affect people who have libgccjit and GCC/Binutils installed, because otherwise Emacs will be unable to compile new *.eln files. Right?