From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Andrea Corallo <akrl@sdf.org>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, corwin@bru.st, 58318@debbugs.gnu.org,
bartosz.bubak@gmail.com
Subject: bug#58318: 28.2; Emacs installed from package won't work with MinGW
Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2022 16:48:16 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83tu4fn3rz.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xjfbkqn3hu0.fsf@ma.sdf.org> (message from Andrea Corallo on Fri, 07 Oct 2022 13:04:55 +0000)
> From: Andrea Corallo <akrl@sdf.org>
> Cc: larsi@gnus.org, corwin@bru.st, bartosz.bubak@gmail.com,
> 58318@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2022 13:04:55 +0000
>
> > How is this relevant only to Windows?
>
> Windows is the only system where a native compiled Emacs can start even
> if libgccjit is not present. On GNU/Linux we get and error at load time
> from the dynamic linker in case. As a consequence on GNU/Linux Emacs is
> always capable of producing trampolines when needed.
It could be that libgccjit is loaded but is incompatible or
something. So I'd prefer a general solution.
> > And what do you mean by "disable direct calls from Lisp native code
> > into primitives"? I don't think I understand what this would do in
> > practice.
>
> Native compiled elisp calls directly into primitive functions not to go
> through funcall. For this reason when a primitive is redefined we need
> to produce a trampoline in order to forward these calls to the funcall
> machinery. If we disable all of this optimization the issue disappears
> but indeed that's not good from a performance point of view.
How much will performance suffer if we use funcall?
> Indeed the other option is to precompile all trampoline AOT when we know
> libgccjit is available. It is actually very simple with something like:
>
> (mapatoms (λ (f)
> (when (subr-primitive-p (symbol-function f))
> (or (comp-trampoline-search f)
> (comp-trampoline-compile f)))))
>
> It was not consired worth as trampoline production is very quick, but
> might be worth at least for Windows platforms for the discussed reason.
If calling through funcall is too expensive, I think pre-compiling all
the trampolines would indeed be the best solution, thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-07 13:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-05 16:01 bug#58318: 28.2; Emacs installed from package won't work with MinGW Bartosz Bubak
2022-10-06 5:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-06 13:09 ` Corwin Brust
2022-10-06 13:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-06 14:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 11:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-07 11:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 12:04 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-07 12:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 12:28 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-07 12:35 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-07 12:43 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-07 12:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 13:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-07 13:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 13:47 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-07 13:04 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-07 13:48 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-10-07 13:54 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-07 14:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 14:35 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-07 15:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 15:34 ` Corwin Brust
2022-10-07 15:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 15:47 ` Corwin Brust
2022-10-07 19:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 17:15 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-07 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 15:49 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-07 15:52 ` Corwin Brust
2022-10-07 19:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-08 12:56 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-08 13:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-08 13:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-08 14:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-08 13:28 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-11 19:23 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-11 19:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11 20:45 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-12 5:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-12 8:14 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-12 12:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-12 14:55 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-12 15:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-13 13:26 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-06 14:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
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