From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#63757: 29.0.91 order of package paths changed: random old versions of packages in load-path Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2023 13:16:03 +0300 Message-ID: <83ttvn5y8s.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83y1l7gzqw.fsf@gnu.org> <87ilcb2p1l.fsf@posteo.net> <87sfb8g85v.fsf@posteo.net> <83a5xf7pi5.fsf@gnu.org> <831qir7isf.fsf@gnu.org> <83wn0j621b.fsf@gnu.org> <87legzoabp.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9127"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: artscan@list.ru, 63757@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 04 12:16:33 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q5kmn-0002Dg-CR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 12:16:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q5kmQ-0007vI-0N; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 06:16:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q5kmI-0007uZ-5Z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 06:16:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q5kmH-00033k-TB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 06:16:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q5kmH-0007a9-OX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 06:16:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2023 10:16:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 63757 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 63757-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B63757.168587374629121 (code B ref 63757); Sun, 04 Jun 2023 10:16:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 63757) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jun 2023 10:15:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45117 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q5km2-0007Zd-A7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 06:15:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42516) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q5klz-0007ZC-6B for 63757@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 06:15:44 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q5klt-0002uh-ST; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 06:15:37 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=Lp+A7TCtwtCFbvWIdzlTKo2bf8FyJjLyme878WVmrgI=; b=buPXyicnzA8IISA8cmd1 7ixBWam0GxJbA6sDa2TO//84hz1WzcZNhDRsbreNygkZ3mBtOi1M7UtW5iGWeIAK0SHDE9FJSzZY1 ENQ/0aqvVfEnl8joGPpk/tWDQ1T0DG6V1IhpYNwJmoAttjjGwSTFzB06WeNOF89GLuSWwsmvQ/Zjh XbQ42uMeyuyKNtL+079f1sogKQ1NKoqrG0zI+TmvrycaHzbGXssEYxz62FW5LiwPP08I7ykYWwOD9 C1zVvRFirrTXZJqfqOwWEDYyub7nDwmv3cHF9S1xRoR4Knzwwldd5n0EU/1dp5T7Khv4juUHvMaIT 9zQ2l0Ynus2+Ag==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q5klS-00079h-8Z; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 06:15:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87legzoabp.fsf@posteo.net> (message from Philip Kaludercic on Sun, 04 Jun 2023 09:17:46 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:262929 Archived-At: > From: Philip Kaludercic > Cc: Евгений Бойков , > monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, > 63757@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2023 09:17:46 +0000 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > So you are saying that other people mostly delete old versions from > > ~/.emacs.d/elpa/, and that's why this problem was not reported until > > now, is that right? > > If you use regular package-* functions, upgrading always deletes and old > version when the new one is installed, so IIRC having two separate > versions of a package installed has to be the result of some manual > intervention. > > > What are our recommendations, if any, for cleaning up old versions of > > ELPA packages? > > M-x package-autoremove should take care of them. So maybe we don't have to fix this on the emacs-29 branch, but can instead install the changes on master? And maybe consider backporting them later for Emacs 29.2?