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Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qHq5e-0006D2-Fy; Fri, 07 Jul 2023 14:21:58 -0400 In-Reply-To: <989BBD73-ADED-42E0-A97C-84FB56ED2DFD@gmail.com> (message from Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= on Fri, 7 Jul 2023 18:49:56 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:264743 Archived-At: > From: Mattias Engdegård > Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2023 18:49:56 +0200 > Cc: gregory@heytings.org, > acohen@ust.hk, > 64391@debbugs.gnu.org, > monnier@iro.umontreal.ca > > 7 juli 2023 kl. 14.50 skrev Eli Zaretskii : > > >>> I was considering applying only the first of Gregory's patches, > >>> without the second. WDYT? > >> > >> I don't think that makes much sense -- the division between the two is pretty much artificial. > > > > It makes sense to me, because it minimizes changes in the code, which > > at this stage in the pretest is something very important, IMO. > > Oh, I certainly appreciate the importance of conservatism in changes > on the release branch, but sensibly so -- it's not a game of code > golf. Only applying half of the intended change leaves the code in > an ugly state, Ugly is in the eyes of the beholder. The release of Emacs 29 was already delayed twice by this feature, so please forgive me if my sense of aesthetics in this regard is beginning to fade. > and does in fact not minimise risk at all, quite the opposite. How so? If the patch solves the problem, the problem is solved, period. Where's the risk in not applying unnecessary changes?