From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#67053: 29.1; Doc string of variable `dired-use-ls-dired' Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 10:04:54 +0200 Message-ID: <83ttpsww9l.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87sf5c7v4s.fsf@web.de> <87leb4yem5.fsf@web.de> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31455"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 67053-done@debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 11 09:05:44 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1r1izw-0007wk-7a for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2023 09:05:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r1izd-0003sc-VT; Sat, 11 Nov 2023 03:05:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r1iza-0003qs-Cw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2023 03:05:22 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r1iza-0004wF-4t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2023 03:05:22 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r1j0E-0000U8-4Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2023 03:06:02 -0500 Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 08:06:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: cc-closed 67053 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Mail-Followup-To: 67053@debbugs.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com Original-Received: via spool by 67053-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D67053.16996899491839 (code D ref 67053); Sat, 11 Nov 2023 08:06:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 67053-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Nov 2023 08:05:49 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51430 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r1j01-0000Tb-6U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2023 03:05:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36272) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r1izw-0000TE-5n for 67053-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2023 03:05:47 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r1izC-0004GW-88; Sat, 11 Nov 2023 03:04:58 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=oNHL7DX2uuXFaFi/3VMs5xIa7luchhSera20+znwwh8=; b=W8a587Jy3Xyz LAFE8H4ainji03YowRoJqTtkWEMjOOZ6z1rYIuvtQDE2lqwzCVZ77msY5x01gUNCpyjQBym2SAPZx kxIBTg3HZxA80os8aMtiJSEJ+LZOGLZR0c9+vG7BgwMiqMdkopTk4jMYec4J1kGQXYKI6EUv06eHX Kij+srzFOq39+3b+6RiH2Iq9Z1GsL626EN8oA5ApyH1NBUgN6ZTIjf7ZPGeO7mU9r9ifNPjYPvAjS m9sinOCU060y1/P9qJDJry5AzzJ6XltcQqtIlOGLZvyvU1Y/D2m4jEpELXXyrbHFW/GzoK8q8EQVW CszcWkPNSfvIQbaZwTtkrg==; In-Reply-To: <87leb4yem5.fsf@web.de> (message from Michael Heerdegen on Sat, 11 Nov 2023 07:43:14 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:274144 Archived-At: > Cc: "67053@debbugs.gnu.org" <67053@debbugs.gnu.org> > From: Michael Heerdegen > Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 07:43:14 +0100 > > Drew Adams writes: > > > In short, `dired-use-ls-dired' isn't used if option > > `ls-lisp-use-insert-directory-program' is nil; it's > > irrelevant in that case. The doc should say that. > > If that is what you suggest - yes, I think this would be reasonable. If that's the only problem with the doc string, then I already added a note to that affect (although I wonder why a user who doesn't use 'ls' would be bothered by this factoid). FTR, it was very hard to understand from the original report that this is the source of the confusion. Why would someone expect Emacs to check what 'ls' does if 'ls' is not used? Anyway, I'm now closing this bug, as I don't think we have anything else to do here.