From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>
Cc: 67687@debbugs.gnu.org, eskinjp@gmail.com, michael.albinus@gmx.de,
stefankangas@gmail.com
Subject: bug#67687: Feature request: automatic tags management
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2024 14:07:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83ttnx1clj.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <801f2f8a-a39b-493f-a24f-0613a3c7ca57@gutov.dev> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Mon, 1 Jan 2024 03:23:36 +0200)
> Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2024 03:23:36 +0200
> Cc: stefankangas@gmail.com, eskinjp@gmail.com, 67687@debbugs.gnu.org,
> michael.albinus@gmx.de
> From: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>
>
> >> a) We won't add new files to the index, because we (apparently) can't
> >> simply use the project's list of files -- there is no guarantee that it
> >> matches the fileset that the original author of the TAGS file had in mind.
> >
> > The user has etags-regen-ignores to control that.
>
> etags-regen-ignores wouldn't normally include filters that already are
> in project's ignores. But of course the user might choose to add them.
>
> >> b) There is no way to pick up the --regex options used for generating
> >> the original TAGS, or any other options we don't know about.
> >
> > There are defcustoms to control both of those.
>
> If all of these options are set to the expected values, what's stopping
> the user from calling 'M-x tags-reset-tags-tables' and having
> etags-regen-mode create the table on its own? The extra 10 seconds of
> waiting?
>
> Also note that if you have an existing TAGS file in the root of the
> project, with default configuration etags-regen-mode will pick it up to
> visit and refresh it where necessary (when there are changed or missing
> files).
>
> >> Either way, we get a poorly-defined behavior with edge cases that are
> >> likely to surprise the user at different points of time. So we might
> >> indeed grow such a capability, but it'll probably stay off by default.
> >
> > I agree that sometimes it could be against the user's expectations.
> > But I also think that other times it is according to user's
> > expectations. Which tells me that this is a separate issue that needs
> > a separate knob; we shouldn't deterministically deduce what users want
> > in this respect from the fact that he/she loaded an existing tags
> > table. Moreover, it is quite possible that even when the mode is
> > turned on, users might want sometimes to load tags tables manually.
>
> I don't mind adding additional knobs.
I guess for now it will be enough to document that invoking
visit-tags-table disables the mode for that project. AFAICT this is
not currently documented anywhere in the patch.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-01-01 12:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-12-07 11:43 bug#67687: Feature request: automatic tags management Jon Eskin
2023-12-07 15:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-07 19:57 ` Jon Eskin
2023-12-10 2:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-10 11:38 ` Jon Eskin
2023-12-20 21:11 ` Jon Eskin
2023-12-21 0:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-21 7:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-21 16:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-21 23:37 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-24 1:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-28 9:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-30 3:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-30 7:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-30 23:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-31 1:02 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-31 23:29 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-01-02 0:40 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-02 1:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-31 7:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-31 15:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-29 22:29 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-30 1:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-30 20:31 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-30 22:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-30 23:25 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-30 23:58 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-31 7:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-31 15:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-29 22:17 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-30 1:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-30 20:56 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-30 23:23 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-31 0:03 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-31 6:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-31 7:22 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-31 15:22 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-31 15:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-31 16:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-31 17:53 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-31 19:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-01 1:23 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-01-01 12:07 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-01-01 15:47 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-01-01 16:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-01 17:23 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-01-01 17:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-01 18:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-01-01 19:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-02 1:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-01-04 1:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-01-02 10:41 ` Francesco Potortì
2024-01-02 13:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
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