From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9571: 24.0.50; user option to turn off bidi, please Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:46:23 +0300 Message-ID: <83sjnnqpts.fsf@gnu.org> References: Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1316789206 20638 80.91.229.12 (23 Sep 2011 14:46:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:46:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9571@debbugs.gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 23 16:46:41 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R771U-0007ki-Rl for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:46:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41493 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R771U-0003JL-91 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:46:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:34710) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R771S-0003JE-3I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:46:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R771Q-0003M3-Dy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:46:38 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:51822) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R771Q-0003Ly-96 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:46:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R771q-0006vi-Mw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:47:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:47:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9571 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 9571-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9571.131678919426598 (code B ref 9571); Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:47:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9571) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Sep 2011 14:46:34 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R771N-0006ux-OR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:46:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R771M-0006ur-L8 for 9571@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:46:33 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LRZ00K00CL50M00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 9571@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:45:51 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.228.8.215]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LRZ00H29D0CPT23@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:45:49 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:47:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:51718 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:31:33 -0400 > From: Richard Stallman > Cc: 9571@debbugs.gnu.org > > If the confusion has to do with bidi, the feature you want for > understanding it is to turn off bidi and nothing else. What confusion are you referring to? Are we talking about a buffer with or without R2L characters? And how would setting bidi-display-reordering to nil resolve that confusion? IOW, please describe the relevant use cases in more detail. Without that, I fear we are having a misunderstanding of some kind. > It has to be easy to do, so why NOT do it? Because the unidirectional display will one day go away, and having a user option will be an obstacle to getting rid of it. We have been there with unibyte buffers.