From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.comp.gnu.mailutils.bugs Subject: bug#18278: [PATCH] bug#18130: rmail.el: handle imaps, pops, and local source mailboxes (maildir, MH, etc.) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 18:51:56 +0300 Message-ID: <83sik0aj1f.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20140816155324.14384@ulysses.gnu.org.ua> <83k35daq37.fsf@gnu.org> <82sik07q67.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1410277953 24647 80.91.229.3 (9 Sep 2014 15:52:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 15:52:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: gray@gnu.org, bug-mailutils@gnu.org, 18278@debbugs.gnu.org To: Carlos Pita Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 09 17:52:25 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XRNiM-0007yq-K2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Sep 2014 17:52:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50534 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XRNiM-0000tu-Ah for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Sep 2014 11:52:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53719) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XRNiE-0000rn-AM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Sep 2014 11:52:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XRNi7-0001Tm-2X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Sep 2014 11:52:10 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:43980) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XRNi7-0001Ti-04 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Sep 2014 11:52:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XRNi6-00066R-1Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Sep 2014 11:52:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 15:52:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18278 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 18278-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18278.141027791623443 (code B ref 18278); Tue, 09 Sep 2014 15:52:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18278) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Sep 2014 15:51:56 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35542 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XRNhz-000662-Ho for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Sep 2014 11:51:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout25.012.net.il ([80.179.55.181]:55645) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XRNhw-00065k-WE for 18278@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Sep 2014 11:51:54 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout25.012.net.il by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NBN00A004WNR400@mtaout25.012.net.il> for 18278@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Sep 2014 18:46:14 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NBN004VN5518B70@mtaout25.012.net.il>; Tue, 09 Sep 2014 18:46:14 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <82sik07q67.fsf@gmail.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:93200 gmane.comp.gnu.mailutils.bugs:1984 Archived-At: > From: Carlos Pita > Cc: Stefan Monnier , gray@gnu.org, bug-mailutils@gnu.org, 18278@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 12:46:08 -0300 > > > So the only issue that bothers me here is: would the new code still > > work with the old movemail, and how does the code detect whether it > > invokes old or new one? > > please take into account that this is mainly a bug fix (see bug report > #18130, which originated this new report and corresponding patch). It's > not an improvement on or an enhancement of the "old movemail". Currently > the emacs documentation on rmail states that it must work with the > external movemail and that it must support additional protocols (by > using this external tool). But both assertions are currently false. The > rmail code already supports both movemail backends, indeed, but the > support for the mailutils one is mostly broken. Yes, I understand all that (I've read the patch). But I don't think a bugfix necessarily avoids the danger of breaking backwards compatibility, which is why I asked. I think my question still stands.