From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21140: 25.0.50; Isearch "char-fold" by default Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 05:34:23 +0300 Message-ID: <83si89xb68.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86vbd5n27r.fsf@example.com> <873809z0w0.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1438050921 15358 80.91.229.3 (28 Jul 2015 02:35:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 02:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: sva-news@mygooglest.com, bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, 21140@debbugs.gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 28 04:35:12 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJujX-0003Wi-9n for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 04:35:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56706 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJujW-0004bI-DA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 22:35:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55339) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJujS-0004Yz-Be for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 22:35:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJujP-0003zn-1t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 22:35:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:59122) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJujP-0003z5-04 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 22:35:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJujO-00035f-Ad for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 22:35:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 02:35:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21140 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 21140-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21140.143805087811842 (code B ref 21140); Tue, 28 Jul 2015 02:35:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21140) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jul 2015 02:34:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60568 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJuiz-00034v-TF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 22:34:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout28.012.net.il ([80.179.55.184]:52256) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJuix-00034k-DI for 21140@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 22:34:36 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout28.012.net.il by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NS600A00EYB1E00@mtaout28.012.net.il> for 21140@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 05:34:38 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NS6001IOF5QYG80@mtaout28.012.net.il>; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 05:34:38 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <873809z0w0.fsf@mail.linkov.net> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:105178 Archived-At: > From: Juri Linkov > Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 01:33:35 +0300 > Cc: Sebastien Vauban , 21140@debbugs.gnu.org > > > There's another thread here about hiding that string from the prompt. I > > agree it's a little confusing, and char folding can be used without > > flashing it on the user. Somebody offered to do something about it, though > > I forget who. > > The idea was to not display the search parameters that have default values, > i.e. if char folding is enabled by default then to not display “Char-fold”. > But the problem is to find a name complementary to char-folding > to display when the default char-folding is disabled by ‘M-s '’. > > In case of case-folding the parameter names used in isearch messages are: > “case-sensitive” and “case-insensitive”. > > By analogy, can we use: “char-sensitive” and “char-insensitive”? I doubt that will be clear to users, since no one else calls this by that name. "Folding" is the accepted terminology, though perhaps "char-fold" is also slightly unclear. How about just "Fold"?