From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23425: master branch: `message' wrongly corrupts ' to curly quote. Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2017 17:37:51 +0300 Message-ID: <83shj6614w.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20170608173400.GA2662@acm.fritz.box> <20170609194141.GA3410@acm.fritz.box> <3b2a119e-7c2e-e906-dea0-ae91aca80f33@cs.ucla.edu> <0846dd8a-804d-4df9-8a45-979a9d49b5d6@default> <94369fcb-ce5f-17be-ced7-0e30bf1dd29f@cs.ucla.edu> <20170610100103.GA2960@acm.fritz.box> <87ink4f72b.fsf@engster.org> <20170610130100.GB2960@acm.fritz.box> <83y3t055d6.fsf@gnu.org> <20170611100347.GA4280@acm.fritz.box> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1497191952 28524 195.159.176.226 (11 Jun 2017 14:39:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2017 14:39:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, 23425@debbugs.gnu.org, deng@randomsample.de To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 11 16:39:07 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dK41C-00079y-Ul for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Jun 2017 16:39:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34234 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dK41H-0004BC-WB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Jun 2017 10:39:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53884) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dK41C-0004At-5C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jun 2017 10:39:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dK418-0005OY-J3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jun 2017 10:39:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:38560) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dK418-0005ON-FA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jun 2017 10:39:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dK418-0000mM-90 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jun 2017 10:39:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2017 14:39:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23425 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23425-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23425.14971918962944 (code B ref 23425); Sun, 11 Jun 2017 14:39:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23425) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jun 2017 14:38:16 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41237 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dK40O-0000lQ-9c for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jun 2017 10:38:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34611) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dK40M-0000lD-K8 for 23425@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jun 2017 10:38:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dK40E-0005Ga-3N for 23425@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jun 2017 10:38:09 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:54112) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dK40D-0005GU-W8; Sun, 11 Jun 2017 10:38:06 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2163 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dK40D-00028J-2q; Sun, 11 Jun 2017 10:38:05 -0400 In-reply-to: <20170611100347.GA4280@acm.fritz.box> (message from Alan Mackenzie on Sun, 11 Jun 2017 10:03:47 +0000) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:133472 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2017 10:03:47 +0000 > Cc: deng@randomsample.de, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, 23425@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Alan Mackenzie > > > IME, it [`message'] works quite well all of the time. > > It does not work at all for outputting ` and '. Ugly workarounds are > required for that. We will have to disagree on the ugliness part. Modulo that, it's quite possible to output these two characters. > > Where it has some deficiencies, I'm sure we will with time improve it > > so it works even better. That's my experience in Emacs for many years. > > If it doesn't get fixed now, it will never be fixed. It will, if we the motion to do that ever gets more support, or if we find some grave problems we are not aware today. > > And with that, I think it's high time to end this discussion. > > How about fixing this bug first? I'm sorry, but I don't see anything that needs to be fixed at this time.