From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15803: default-file-name-coding-system: utf-8 better than latin-1 these days? Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2017 09:54:36 +0200 Message-ID: <83shcu3mtf.fsf@gnu.org> References: <708ten8bam.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1512114969 21697 195.159.176.226 (1 Dec 2017 07:56:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 07:56:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15803@debbugs.gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 01 08:56:05 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eKgB2-0005Kb-Na for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2017 08:56:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51213 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eKgBA-0001do-2s for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2017 02:56:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36163) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eKgB4-0001cK-43 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2017 02:56:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eKgB0-0000w0-SY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2017 02:56:06 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:58480) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eKgB0-0000vg-Og for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2017 02:56:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eKgB0-0003JV-FM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2017 02:56:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2017 07:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15803 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 15803-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15803.151211490412671 (code B ref 15803); Fri, 01 Dec 2017 07:56:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15803) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Dec 2017 07:55:04 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38928 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eKgA4-0003IJ-CU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2017 02:55:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45164) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eKgA3-0003Hl-8a for 15803@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2017 02:55:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eKg9u-00079C-S8 for 15803@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2017 02:54:57 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:40070) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eKg9u-00078n-Nw for 15803@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2017 02:54:54 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1757 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eKg9t-0003WJ-R7; Fri, 01 Dec 2017 02:54:54 -0500 In-reply-to: <708ten8bam.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from Glenn Morris on Thu, 30 Nov 2017 20:52:17 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:140569 Archived-At: > From: Glenn Morris > Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 20:52:17 -0500 > > So should the default finally be changed to utf-8? Perhaps on Posix systems, but not elsewhere. And if we make the change, we should make sure building Emacs in a non-ASCII directory still works. Btw, why does the default matter so much? Once Emacs starts up default-file-name-coding-system on GNU/Linux is set to UTF-8, if the locale says so. Is this just an aesthetic issue?