From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, 32643@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#32643: 26; minor-mode variables
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2018 17:33:51 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83sh2mwv8w.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <494224f1-815f-4fb4-a779-75e243b519f0@default> (message from Drew Adams on Thu, 6 Sep 2018 07:18:45 -0700 (PDT))
> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 07:18:45 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Cc: 32643@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> But the real point of the bug report is that we _do_ say that a
> minor mode should have (and set) a mode variable:
>
> Define a variable whose name ends in '-mode'. We call this the
> "mode variable". The minor mode command should set this
> variable.
>
> And that "should" is not respected by some variables from basic
> Emacs itself - in particular `auto-fill-mode'. Shouldn't it be?
FWIW, I see no need to demand 100% consistency here.
> Nothing requires everything in the Emacs distribution to respect
> each convention that Emacs sets forth. But is there a reason why
> `auto-fill-mode' (and others?) should not respect this convention?
> If nothing else, I'm curious why the exception(s).
Most probably, historical accidents. But even finding that out is a
non-trivial amount of work.
> (The bug report also asks whether it's a bug for a mode not to have
> a variable, and suggests that it is. And if it's not, the report asks that
> the Elisp manual give some guidance about when a mode should
> not or need not have a variable.)
I think the manual already does what you want, it just doesn't say
this is a bug (because it isn't, IMO).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-09-06 14:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-09-05 15:13 bug#32643: 26; minor-mode variables Drew Adams
2018-09-06 5:51 ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-06 14:18 ` Drew Adams
2018-09-06 14:33 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2018-09-08 2:07 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-09-08 2:25 ` Drew Adams
2018-09-09 20:33 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-09-09 22:09 ` Drew Adams
2018-09-12 0:51 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-09-12 1:46 ` Drew Adams
2018-09-13 3:32 ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-13 13:28 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-09-09 6:05 ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-09 14:12 ` Drew Adams
2018-09-10 7:27 ` Andreas Röhler
[not found] ` <<494224f1-815f-4fb4-a779-75e243b519f0@default>
[not found] ` <<83sh2mwv8w.fsf@gnu.org>
2018-09-06 14:51 ` Drew Adams
2018-09-06 18:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <<<494224f1-815f-4fb4-a779-75e243b519f0@default>
[not found] ` <<<83sh2mwv8w.fsf@gnu.org>
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2018-09-07 0:10 ` Drew Adams
2018-09-07 6:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-08 5:13 ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-08 13:58 ` Drew Adams
2018-09-08 17:53 ` Andreas Röhler
[not found] ` <<<<494224f1-815f-4fb4-a779-75e243b519f0@default>
[not found] ` <<<<83sh2mwv8w.fsf@gnu.org>
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2018-09-07 15:07 ` Drew Adams
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