From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#139: describe-key vs. widget red tape Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 11:25:20 +0300 Message-ID: <83sgoechsf.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87mynwgrxb.fsf@jidanni.org> <877e5ql42d.fsf@gnus.org> <8336gedyus.fsf@gnu.org> <874l0ugrl4.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="186515"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 139@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 30 10:26:17 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iEr0b-000mPg-2x for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 10:26:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47240 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iEr0Z-0006UY-Nf for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 04:26:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50985) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iEr0N-0006UP-NH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 04:26:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iEr0M-0003dB-Qa for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 04:26:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:48083) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iEr0M-0003d1-NO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 04:26:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEr0M-0002lr-J5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 04:26:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 08:26:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 139 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 139-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B139.156983193210615 (code B ref 139); Mon, 30 Sep 2019 08:26:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 139) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Sep 2019 08:25:32 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56904 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEqzq-0002l8-TT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 04:25:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:41886) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEqzp-0002ku-0D for 139@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 04:25:29 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35429) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iEqzj-0003Rj-SG; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 04:25:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3551 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iEqzi-0007z9-PS; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 04:25:23 -0400 In-reply-to: <874l0ugrl4.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Mon, 30 Sep 2019 09:40:07 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:167855 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: jidanni@jidanni.org, 139@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 09:40:07 +0200 > > > If the action of the button is not clear from the button's label, it > > should have a help-echo string which describes that. > > What the button does may be clear, but it can be somewhat convoluted to > determine precisely what function is going to end up being run. (This > is for introspection/debugging purposes.) I'm not sure introspection/debugging was what the OP had in mind, but we could perhaps bind something like M-mouse-3 on a button to produce that information. It wouldn't be easy, though, given how well the widget library hides that.