From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#38079: On Windows tramp hangs after server-start is called Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 20:11:10 +0200 Message-ID: <83sgn0g9j5.fsf@gnu.org> References: <0bf97a5e-549f-1e8a-4212-5b08ad05f049@gmail.com> <83a799gfbp.fsf@gnu.org> <0c0b89e3-ec38-6917-21c3-af35ece4a63f@gmail.com> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="26220"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 38079@debbugs.gnu.org To: Wanrong Lin Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 06 19:12:11 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iSPmr-0006h2-Mj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 19:12:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33992 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iSPmq-00033t-Fn for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 13:12:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53849) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iSPml-00033m-DO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 13:12:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iSPmk-00055H-IO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 13:12:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:60670) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iSPmk-00054n-FX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 13:12:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iSPmk-0001Eo-8g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 13:12:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 18:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 38079 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 38079-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B38079.15730638964714 (code B ref 38079); Wed, 06 Nov 2019 18:12:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 38079) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Nov 2019 18:11:36 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41258 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iSPmK-0001Dy-GI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 13:11:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44685) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iSPmF-0001Dd-WB for 38079@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 13:11:34 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53736) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iSPm9-0003o0-TU; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 13:11:25 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3061 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iSPm9-0002KM-6L; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 13:11:25 -0500 In-reply-to: <0c0b89e3-ec38-6917-21c3-af35ece4a63f@gmail.com> (message from Wanrong Lin on Wed, 6 Nov 2019 11:50:59 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:171041 Archived-At: > Cc: 38079@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Wanrong Lin > Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2019 11:50:59 -0500 > > But I don't understand the underlying difficulty to ensure > system-name never changes. There are two system calls that return this information on Windows, and they treat the letter-case differently. The second system call needs the winsock layer to be initialized, and we don't want to do that at startup because it causes various problems (sorry, I no longer remember the details of that part). So we only call the network-aware system call after some network connection is available.