From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2020 17:27:46 +0300 Message-ID: <83sgb8va8t.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87bogubqjy.fsf@gnu.org> <873925ebpd.fsf@gnu.org> <87363ff7qp.fsf@gnus.org> <11ee80e5-6d98-4a1f-93c8-babb6da003f3@default> <87r1qxrgs1.fsf@gnus.org> <87v9g52dvz.fsf@red-bean.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26191"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, cyd@gnu.org, 12507@debbugs.gnu.org To: Karl Fogel Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 23 16:28:17 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kL5kk-0006fY-LK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2020 16:28:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42568 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kL5kj-00084Y-LI for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2020 10:28:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50816) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kL5kY-000831-FX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2020 10:28:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:54095) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kL5kY-0004VZ-6T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2020 10:28:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kL5kY-0005ws-3I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2020 10:28:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2020 14:28:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12507 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 12507-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12507.160087127222848 (code B ref 12507); Wed, 23 Sep 2020 14:28:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12507) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Sep 2020 14:27:52 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37407 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kL5kN-0005wS-Uy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2020 10:27:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43952) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kL5kK-0005w7-2y for 12507@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2020 10:27:50 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:45351) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kL5kE-0004Tg-DR; Wed, 23 Sep 2020 10:27:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1352 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kL5kC-0006Kf-Hq; Wed, 23 Sep 2020 10:27:41 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87v9g52dvz.fsf@red-bean.com> (message from Karl Fogel on Wed, 23 Sep 2020 01:41:52 -0500) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:188782 Archived-At: > From: Karl Fogel > Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2020 01:41:52 -0500 > Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Chong Yidong , > 12507@debbugs.gnu.org > > This way we would still use `write-region' and avoid visiting the file. Why do we have to keep to use write-region? > Even though we don't know exactly why Richard made the original motivating change (commit cfde584f6d, see [b] below), there was some problem with `write-file' -- so we shouldn't just go back to that, because a regression would be likely. You already had this discussion with Richard back then, see https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2005-05/msg01376.html If what Richard wrote in response is not clear enough, we can ask him to try to elaborate.