From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#48478: 28.0.50; yank-from-kill-ring and kill-ring-yank-pointer Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2021 08:52:27 +0300 Message-ID: <83sg1vilpg.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83h7j1twym.fsf@gnu.org> <87h7iwuf0m.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83o8d3l179.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0nqo570.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83a6olkjca.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmxe649v.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <835yz5bszn.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2c1yvqq.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <835yz4ab0s.fsf@gnu.org> <87wnrfx380.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83a6ob2jiy.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmx6k6lf.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <838s3t236k.fsf@gnu.org> <8735u1e5hd.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83lf7sxqiw.fsf@gnu.org> <87v96wc6jd.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <838s3rxyf3.fsf@gnu.org> <877djazn16.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <834keew4rs.fsf@gnu.org> <87r1hh60jb.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83r1hhlae1.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmx03sg1.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26836"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 48478@debbugs.gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 06 07:53:13 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lplij-0006k5-5S for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2021 07:53:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56890 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lplih-0006mk-Ae for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2021 01:53:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40784) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lpliY-0006mW-Bb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2021 01:53:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:38936) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lpliX-0002jz-Tb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2021 01:53:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lpliX-0006rR-RH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2021 01:53:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2021 05:53:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 48478 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 48478-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B48478.162295876126347 (code B ref 48478); Sun, 06 Jun 2021 05:53:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 48478) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jun 2021 05:52:41 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50482 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lpliD-0006qs-KN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2021 01:52:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47114) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lpli9-0006qd-Gt for 48478@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2021 01:52:40 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43138) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lpli2-0002P7-8P; Sun, 06 Jun 2021 01:52:31 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3793 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lpli0-0006P1-0I; Sun, 06 Jun 2021 01:52:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87pmx03sg1.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (message from Juri Linkov on Sun, 06 Jun 2021 00:35:58 +0300) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:208085 Archived-At: > From: Juri Linkov > Cc: 48478@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2021 00:35:58 +0300 > > I don't disagree. I simply don't know what to do. For example, > above you said to insert one of these two, but which one and how > is completely unclear. So it seems we need to hear more opinions. I think the conclusion up-thread was that if the entry is edited before it's inserted, then the edited entry should be added to the head of the kill-ring, and the pointer set there. IOW, if I edit the previous kill and insert it, the edited string becomes the one I get on the next C-y. The discussion concluded that doing this is possible without extensive changes, whereas the other alternative is "hard" as it goes against the current design and implementation of the functions involved in this. I'm okay with this behavior, and it is easy to describe in the manual and easy to remember.