From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#49037: flyspell word correction frustrating Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 21:29:22 +0300 Message-ID: <83sg1j2d8d.fsf@gnu.org> References: Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26837"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 49037@debbugs.gnu.org To: henri-biard@francemel.fr Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 15 20:30:15 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ltDpG-0006nz-2C for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 20:30:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33028 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ltDpE-0007XC-Dr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 14:30:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58796) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ltDp4-0007Wc-50 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 14:30:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:39269) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ltDp3-0000Kx-Tb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 14:30:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ltDp3-0005w2-Qw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 14:30:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 18:30:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 49037 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 49037-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B49037.162378177322762 (code B ref 49037); Tue, 15 Jun 2021 18:30:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 49037) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jun 2021 18:29:33 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50815 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ltDob-0005v3-JZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 14:29:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60940) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ltDoZ-0005uq-S8 for 49037@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 14:29:32 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37864) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ltDoT-0008N3-4l; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 14:29:25 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2866 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ltDoS-0002ZR-IY; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 14:29:25 -0400 In-Reply-To: (henri-biard@francemel.fr) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:208590 Archived-At: > From: henri-biard@francemel.fr > Cc: larsi@gnus.org, > 49037@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 20:24:27 +0200 (CEST) > > >> 1. It does not tell me that aspell is the default > > >Why should it? You set up your system with whatever spell-checker you > >want, and Emacs uses that. It is not Emacs's business to tell you > >which spell-checker to install and use. > > I have multiple ones and make comparisons between them. So I really want to know > what it uses. After all the information is there and that is what emacs actually does. > Should I not be able to easily know what it is doing under the hood. Emacs Self > Documentation should help me with that. Documentation cannot tell everything; if it tried, it'd become too long and hard to read. The details you are after are in the source code; the documentation of each variable has a link to the source, where you can see the gory details. > >> 3. It does not describe that it searches PATH. > > >That's an implementation detail. If you want to know those details, > >you have the source to read and study. The user manual explains how > >to use the commands, not how the commands work. > > Explains with no examples or much description of ispell-program-name, which > for me is very important. Yours is a rare situation, so you shouldn't expect it to be covered in the general documentation. > Because Gnu Aspell was designed to replace Ispell, how about deprecating Ispell > and simply have emacs-ispell be the general framework for orthographic study. We already did that.