From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#49261: 28.0.50; File Locking Breaks Presumptuous Toolchains Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 17:03:06 +0300 Message-ID: <83sg0jaaud.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87o8bn7bie.fsf@gnus.org> <87zgv6vuon.fsf@gmx.de> <837di9lwbm.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6n5vuu4.fsf@gnus.org> <8735sqnmei.fsf@gnus.org> <87zguyf4ht.fsf@gmx.de> <87pmvum54p.fsf@gnus.org> <87v95mf2lj.fsf@gmx.de> <87pmvt3ob1.fsf@gnus.org> <87fswpgacv.fsf@gmx.de> <87bl7dfikj.fsf@gmx.de> <8735sofuqj.fsf@gmx.de> <83sg0oc83l.fsf@gnu.org> <87v95jevrm.fsf@gmx.de> <83lf6fdav4.fsf@gnu.org> <87r1g7eoor.fsf@gmx.de> <87im1jphyy.fsf@gnus.org> <87im1fd4fr.fsf@gmx.de> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18393"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, ncaprisunfan@gmail.com, 49261@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 12 16:04:23 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m2wXm-0004U5-VE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 16:04:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45556 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m2wXm-0004Ak-1Y for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 10:04:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37470) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m2wXS-00047m-5m for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 10:04:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:55294) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m2wXR-0006s5-TP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 10:04:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m2wXR-0004C5-QB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 10:04:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 14:04:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 49261 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 49261-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B49261.162609860116072 (code B ref 49261); Mon, 12 Jul 2021 14:04:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 49261) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2021 14:03:21 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38607 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m2wWn-0004BA-EC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 10:03:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39520) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m2wWm-0004Ay-F7 for 49261@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 10:03:21 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54026) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m2wWg-0006Tt-Sr; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 10:03:14 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4810 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m2wWg-0000Of-EP; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 10:03:14 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87im1fd4fr.fsf@gmx.de> (message from Michael Albinus on Mon, 12 Jul 2021 15:53:12 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:209821 Archived-At: > From: Michael Albinus > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , ncaprisunfan@gmail.com, > 49261@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 15:53:12 +0200 > > Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > > >> Until now, there are no file locks for remote files at all. I thought > >> disabling it for remote files would be requested by some users for > >> backward compatibility. > > > > Yeah, I think it's a good idea, and allowing REPLACEMENT to be nil seems > > like the natural way to implement it. > > And now? You and Eli disagree in this point, and I don't know what to do. Which disagreement between us leaves you at an impasse? If there is indeed such a disagreement, maybe we could find a compromise which will allow some way forward.