From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#61325: 30.0.50; Jokes in GNUS manual Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2023 14:36:35 +0200 Message-ID: <83sffgnxkc.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ttzy7pg1.fsf@localhost> <87wn4u6xj0.fsf@yahoo.com> <871qn1afay.fsf@localhost> <87r0v17iul.fsf@yahoo.com> <87zg9peijp.fsf@localhost> <87mt5p7etx.fsf@yahoo.com> <87wn4tedtx.fsf@localhost> <87a61p7bpu.fsf@yahoo.com> <87r0v1e9kg.fsf@localhost> <871qn16j3i.fsf@yahoo.com> <871qn0e67a.fsf@localhost> <87h6vw5qpw.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34824"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: yantar92@posteo.net, 61325@debbugs.gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 08 13:37:21 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pPjhR-0008rx-6q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2023 13:37:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pPjhA-0007PM-67; Wed, 08 Feb 2023 07:37:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pPjh8-0007P5-OL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2023 07:37:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pPjh8-0005ly-Eh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2023 07:37:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pPjh7-0001v3-T2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2023 07:37:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2023 12:37:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 61325 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 61325-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B61325.16758597897325 (code B ref 61325); Wed, 08 Feb 2023 12:37:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 61325) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2023 12:36:29 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54971 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pPjga-0001u5-KB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2023 07:36:28 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59684) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pPjgW-0001tk-IE for 61325@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2023 07:36:27 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pPjgR-0004bY-0Z; Wed, 08 Feb 2023 07:36:19 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=qLj+L3q5eZfbx0pDF3F1LhhTaz3jFM93kNskMoqdm44=; b=LzIP0AMF/BW5 fYhccJyYQeXN26pZKpoyswhBjdT605SUqzJtuanEYYdtkC7jBGfxOvl/OIL9O6GfaTMCKxoKNbqrm WEktqNMZgsk+lIK2R0W1M3xDUT10zbWund7RO8/cP7kHiC8as+Z0HdY5eUam4R5sVc6/zmWjibZ0t QZ6arLV2mU+vACI+B9zC7DfyrRyQZjUTvPPYfwuiHrQvA+2lvxcEOI7olVR38xjvV1Gr+cKhZE8bV mKL7lst3waVTVnRJa/psA7NM2i3I9jjH0++tOsz5O7pNP/f+/7BEjtLOBq6CocejUm/ounsze+zWA +JcHMzQBphHeYFP3Z83kYg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pPjgQ-00034R-8W; Wed, 08 Feb 2023 07:36:18 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87h6vw5qpw.fsf@yahoo.com> (bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:255119 Archived-At: > Cc: 61325@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2023 19:41:47 +0800 > From: Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > the Swiss army knife of text editors" > > Many people do not understand English. > Should we write Emacs documentation in some other language, then? These aren't orthogonal: we can have the manual in English _and_ in other languages. (In fact, we want to; it's just that no one has yet volunteered to do the humongously monumental job of translating the manual into any other language, and then maintain the translation over the years.) Exaggeration is a mother of many failures to agree on common goals. So is over-generalization.