From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#62750: 29.0.50; Commands 'package-update' and 'package-update-all' should be called '*-upgrade' Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2023 16:18:10 +0300 Message-ID: <83sfd7c1v1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <2726a957-a2a8-3b89-8930-2d620d83491e@alphapapa.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25765"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 62750@debbugs.gnu.org To: Adam Porter , Lars Ingebrigtsen , Stefan Monnier , Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 10 15:18:20 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1plrPY-0006Tl-IP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 15:18:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1plrPK-0000FA-1b; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 09:18:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1plrPG-0000Ew-TF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 09:18:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1plrPG-0004Pm-GX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 09:18:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1plrPF-0001GH-UQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 09:18:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2023 13:18:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 62750 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 62750-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B62750.16811326604819 (code B ref 62750); Mon, 10 Apr 2023 13:18:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 62750) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Apr 2023 13:17:40 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34558 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1plrOu-0001Ff-8G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 09:17:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36226) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1plrOs-0001FS-Nk for 62750@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 09:17:39 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1plrOl-0004Lh-0I; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 09:17:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=Md922Rk74744wMnsGlfc2bu1bIS+UR7sx3OGKxUgfOs=; b=Q+2xYv8RACba MrdsS9n+a14iTgMGtarGXtpciq2ZTOTcjrTCKYTqxJ0ODle8p6LBuKPdRfq9qXwAcBzSVxU2++bK6 J87FH04RJPHw2hh2bnvBEKm6UmrXB7WgrF5b0e3ruAABzITh4ToxHF4Fx8GXfB5gUlshmwzTOnblT X6kurPw4KdiE3OcubuB9/acg4ZxAxD6qqs8agEDGelHmg+lSTojY8t4ACLFP/jH5P/3aGPRKXX8A3 w2D/dVpdI0siR4m/cqxUKKwqSfkvXcP6dCxbrmCkaxuTrCYbTzuLdztjnlJrh1wuaGQVJS2te5Emj teeAiB4QglZriYSF+QJlaw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1plrOk-0005zB-6T; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 09:17:30 -0400 In-Reply-To: <2726a957-a2a8-3b89-8930-2d620d83491e@alphapapa.net> (message from Adam Porter on Mon, 10 Apr 2023 07:53:52 -0500) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:259572 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2023 07:53:52 -0500 > From: Adam Porter > > +++ > *** New command 'package-update'. > This command allows you to upgrade packages without using 'M-x > list-packages'. > > +++ > *** New command 'package-update-all'. > This command allows updating all packages without any queries. > > But, IMHO, these commands should be named 'package-upgrade' and > 'package-upgrade-all'. These commands exist for the last year. I'm not sure how reasonable it is to rename them now, they are probably used in umpteen places outside Emacs already. Maybe if we leave behind an alias. And what if someone teaches these commands to downgrade as well, at some future time? Does anyone else have an opinion? Lars, Stefan, Philip?