From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#63260: 29.0.90; Regression installing/activating packages without autoloads Date: Sat, 06 May 2023 16:23:43 +0300 Message-ID: <83sfc9fva8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ild8tnbg.fsf@tcd.ie> <87ttwsnn59.fsf@gmail.com> <87zg6kysao.fsf@tcd.ie> <87lei3nv24.fsf@gmail.com> <87a5yhtxkw.fsf@tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21869"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 63260@debbugs.gnu.org, rpluim@gmail.com, philipk@posteo.net To: Basil Contovounesios Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 06 15:23:16 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pvHsa-0005VO-FJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 06 May 2023 15:23:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pvHsO-0001Pr-Ij; Sat, 06 May 2023 09:23:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pvHsN-0001Pi-Mt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 May 2023 09:23:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pvHsN-00059j-Df for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 May 2023 09:23:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pvHsN-0008GB-31 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 May 2023 09:23:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 06 May 2023 13:23:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 63260 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 63260-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B63260.168337937931711 (code B ref 63260); Sat, 06 May 2023 13:23:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 63260) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 May 2023 13:22:59 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59692 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pvHsJ-0008FO-83 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 May 2023 09:22:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53010) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pvHsG-0008FB-Uc for 63260@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 May 2023 09:22:57 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pvHsA-00058m-Ps; Sat, 06 May 2023 09:22:50 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=VnJfdsUzVmybaHk7lo0OshYtV9TGweTpdSDPNugKhEQ=; b=Mo5FsNOMGy9572TIZJiy pb+DjVZqia09xeQoN5BumaD++OH84eio8HXiAQEwEN62ViKjRHURKQVTBDguQQLGwtmIwdqasZWGh Y/aPflvxqU57pYgiyTKbm1WIUjxH5fW2vmmZ8DleceTXiGa7ni06KhMFlkgksjKpIbWMWzhmgoNTG 6t/W/foiaT3dQRa6NTzKcPhaaUEByoH0ucEui9ep4gn/JRFzHhfMYygkdn+GQJkwareyxeEiC6rmA YPhBuRYdNiWTL56n8KTTcq7+MBgBkVC4NjKHenrg+K7blIE+N7NyQvWBVXbYCKgGP5XqTpsPn8fIV +3ZM3U0LVlgLUQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pvHsA-0007zV-4l; Sat, 06 May 2023 09:22:50 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87a5yhtxkw.fsf@tcd.ie> (bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:261195 Archived-At: > Cc: 63260@debbugs.gnu.org, Philip Kaludercic > Date: Sat, 06 May 2023 15:10:23 +0200 > From: Basil Contovounesios via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > the Swiss army knife of text editors" > > Robert Pluim [2023-05-05 08:36 +0200] wrote: > > > The file-missing error is expected, no? Thatʼs why the autoloads > > loading is wrapped in `with-demoted-errors'. Although if the message bothers > > you, I guess we could check `file-exists-p' for it. > > I think it's problematic to emit even a demoted error for supported > circumstances, such as a 'library' package that defines no autoload > cookies. > > Besides, shouldn't the autoloads file be generated unconditionally? > https://lists.gnu.org/r/emacs-devel/2022-06/msg00570.html > > While the error logged to *Messages* is relatively silent, its subequent > repetition on Emacs startup is not: > > $ emacs-29 > Error loading autoloads: (file-missing Cannot open load file > No such file or directory > /tmp/tmp.QQvQfBZ384/.emacs.d/elpa/sicp-20200512.1137/sicp-autoloads) > > This does not seem like TRT to me. What happened in Emacs 28 in the same situation?