From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: philipk@posteo.net, 63757@debbugs.gnu.org, artscan@list.ru
Subject: bug#63757: 29.0.91 order of package paths changed: random old versions of packages in load-path
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2023 18:36:19 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83sfb32sjw.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvh6rm9db2.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 05 Jun 2023 10:55:50 -0400)
> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, artscan@list.ru, 63757@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2023 10:55:50 -0400
>
> > But in this case, if a regular package is upgraded, and a VC package
> > weren't (even though the user might have written some patch they are
> > relying on), it would be suddenly switch when starting up Emacs at some
> > point.
>
> Yup. AFAIK both behaviors (staying with the VC package, and
> switching to the non-VC package) can be "incorrect", depending on
> the circumstances. So I don't see this as "a bug".
>
> Note also that in the session where we perform the install of the
> upgraded package, the upgraded package will take precedence over the VC
> package, so it's mildly more consistent to do the same at startup.
>
> If the user wants to keep using the older VC package, there's always to
> option to use `package-pinned-packages` or to remove the non-VC package.
>
> If we want to do better, rather than forcing VC packages to the top we
> should detect when the ordering between VC and non-VC packages changes
> and emit a warning or prompt the user.
So what's the bottom line here? Do we have an agreed-upon patch that
should be installed on the emacs-29 branch? If so, can it be
installed soon, please? Because I'd like to put out another Emacs 29
pretest in a couple of days.
If there's no agreement yet, can someone please spell out what is yet
to be done here?
Thanks.
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2023-05-27 16:30 bug#63757: 29.0.91 order of package paths changed: random old versions of packages in load-path Евгений Бойков via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-29 11:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-29 14:24 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-06-03 10:19 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-06-03 10:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-03 11:50 ` Евгений Бойков via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
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2023-06-04 4:46 ` Евгений Бойков via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
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2023-06-04 5:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-04 7:47 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-06-04 8:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-04 9:19 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-06-04 10:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2023-06-04 12:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2023-06-07 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
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2023-06-07 19:20 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-06-08 9:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2023-06-04 9:17 ` Philip Kaludercic
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