From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#64401: 28.1; Desktop restoration Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2023 11:37:59 +0300 Message-ID: <83sfa6ogig.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83lefzpj56.fsf@gnu.org> <83ilb3pimj.fsf@gnu.org> <87pm5au366.fsf@gmx.de> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2660"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: tom@tomhunt.email, 64401@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 02 10:38:39 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qFsbP-0000UD-28 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 02 Jul 2023 10:38:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qFsas-0002Y9-FQ; Sun, 02 Jul 2023 04:38:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qFsaq-0002XX-FB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jul 2023 04:38:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qFsao-0003lg-Rw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jul 2023 04:38:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qFsao-0001SJ-DE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jul 2023 04:38:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2023 08:38:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 64401 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 64401-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B64401.16882870575546 (code B ref 64401); Sun, 02 Jul 2023 08:38:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 64401) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jul 2023 08:37:37 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59183 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qFsaO-0001RN-Ri for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jul 2023 04:37:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44214) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qFsaL-0001R9-BH for 64401@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jul 2023 04:37:35 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qFsaF-0003dw-Nd; Sun, 02 Jul 2023 04:37:27 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=8gR/hkNER5kVhfYhHoE6aAqO+D0Ed1pOwaG14ye4O+w=; b=D8Ih8HxTM9aU Gl3RPRZz8oISXUT7j6+N4b2IJ1Yi5wcfFsjBQrg3Hkf6l/pbSEh6pANvkDURq87940DP6JKYwNb0q rOsMlqR27dav2+eqGZ0Mwi30iQkujRY9BmMRbsLADNcI7Pb2aGkRFL0oASu1d3NsFJxfN8EFF4Oks 1BUmnaxFXpkzCK4SipXsUUjLLXrhur/ZdhJIQdIUfLzAraG375vGKfOc09NFBIezazeiR6XFrEKvO C3TXKDTmuebWThkNWLznT4ZJsqfRWptFLR44+Jb301qk6J9igIx500bfHCBQIi9MYDw928skm2q4W 8ixhjd5EghPYWbV78Jmmlw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qFsaD-00051g-L6; Sun, 02 Jul 2023 04:37:27 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87pm5au366.fsf@gmx.de> (message from Michael Albinus on Sun, 02 Jul 2023 10:29:37 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:264463 Archived-At: > From: Michael Albinus > Cc: Tom Hunt , 64401@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2023 10:29:37 +0200 > > > Michael, does Tramp have optional behavior which would abandon attempt > > to visit a file if it takes more than some predefined time? > > No, there isn't. And we cannot implement it for visiting files, because > we don't know what would be an acceptable time period for visiting. There > might be extremely huge files people try to visit over a slow connection. > > But what about extending the semantics of `access-file'? It should > timeout after a given predefined time. The problem is how to find out > this timeout value. For remote files, it depends on the quality of > connection (and perhaps on the performance of the remote machine / file > system), so we must make it configurable, with reasonable defaults. Something like that would be useful, yes. > This timeout might be even useful for local files. Think about hanging > mount points and alike. That could be trickier to implement, since AFAIR we call C APIs for that.