From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#64871: 30.0.50; [FR] Add command and menu item to open user init file Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2023 08:36:17 +0300 Message-ID: <83sf99ncfi.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87jzun7x34.fsf@localhost> <871qguxirf.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15138"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: yantar92@posteo.net, 64871@debbugs.gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 27 08:25:37 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qOuRN-0003hZ-2K for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 27 Jul 2023 08:25:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qOtfX-0004Cr-C1; Thu, 27 Jul 2023 01:36:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qOtfP-0004Bj-Qe for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jul 2023 01:36:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qOtfO-0006uU-3V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jul 2023 01:36:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qOtfN-0005RJ-VD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jul 2023 01:36:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2023 05:36:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 64871 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 64871-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B64871.169043614220885 (code B ref 64871); Thu, 27 Jul 2023 05:36:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 64871) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2023 05:35:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40530 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qOtf4-0005Qn-6d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jul 2023 01:35:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57164) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qOtf2-0005QZ-4V for 64871@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jul 2023 01:35:40 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qOtew-0006dB-CU; Thu, 27 Jul 2023 01:35:34 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=Gr/3CJz/epvj4ZziSvknbhnoq1R6ySvCQS6P8f/G/Ac=; b=QcrQsBs7YVVk QaGVWsUAvOHutTNB1XqC7OPHnjoo4kBzbqW0k6UmkCUzJM4zCtfnjDq1Upx35PWY5Aed9i7fbFkz0 G3SYxOjAOdzKhZv8IMfZBcrPWiz5Ri+svScXNWMjtlwnUIP/vbDNxaBbbIzcdmVPe7lYM6FAj/tlm 11BenpXfAhysynhO6kZ0EZmfxfTLl4R3lUopNFDQGms+l5yPdVpHhADActhUeygypIL29aReGLEbG QV6e2Qn7LdHQPkNRrTcyX/GMi7cbp5AdSzMCPYZcCUlf3RPEdfU9sEoj2HLfgJwl3OHZVfxRDjTMS 0qJNlWrkor8x3hGUV2seqg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qOteo-0002XP-VQ; Thu, 27 Jul 2023 01:35:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: <871qguxirf.fsf@yahoo.com> (bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:266163 Archived-At: > Cc: 64871@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2023 09:09:24 +0800 > From: Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > the Swiss army knife of text editors" > > Ihor Radchenko writes: > > > The command should obviously be available via M-x and maybe also via > > menu > > The global menu bar is already overflowing, so let's not add any more > items to the Edit, Options, Buffers or Tools menus. Before concluding that this suggestion will cause trouble to the over-crowded menu bar, we should talk about where this new items might be placed. If we place it in an existing sub-menu, then the problems it will cause might not be that grave. For example, how about the Options->Customize Emacs sub-menu? > The Emacs manual holds a description of the location of user > initialization files. In a 55-line subsection, plus another 54-line section in the Appendices that describes the Windows-specific quirks! > > and toolbar. > > No! > > Adding that item to the tool bar would increase its (limited) size and > defeat its purpose of holding frequently used editing operations, > relegating its role to that of a dumping ground for miscellany. To be fair, the tool bar still has some free space on it. But I actually wonder about something else: what other applications have a tool-bar button to access the init file, or even just the customization menu?