From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#65186: 29.0.91; `dired-free-space' is a step backward Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 09:12:45 +0300 Message-ID: <83sf8rjuhu.fsf@gnu.org> References: Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37566"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 65186@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 10 08:13:26 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qTyvF-0009ay-KQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 08:13:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qTyuu-0007hC-Kr; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 02:13:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qTyut-0007gg-76 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 02:13:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qTyus-0003Dw-DD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 02:13:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qTyus-00014T-8J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 02:13:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 06:13:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 65186 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 65186-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B65186.16916479474077 (code B ref 65186); Thu, 10 Aug 2023 06:13:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 65186) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Aug 2023 06:12:27 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41069 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qTyuJ-00013h-8f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 02:12:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43874) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qTyuH-00013T-7z for 65186@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 02:12:26 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qTyuB-00039R-GF; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 02:12:19 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=b6PhRfjplgV1j1ZlCVFQnEiOsB0zfTMNc9tkf3oHUrA=; b=nDxmrWjZEb1V Ip+iAGXx05jdJJ5M+GvMUT0hfBWDQgyQ23k1i4QcooLGM/0bu+bTQ4DxfDwJ/YqnQu++FzIUVEicf 30DH7Y5DsIZoUln5Dnk9zWq3OZiU3JSqNxzietAP3XqPFP9WwAHQssqgGfipTWOYkhu0W9JAIialA YtgOyeL5H7kgozvh7qjwep1HTstkECcfNCNsV6mXJWuNP8x25ZCl9mHlS0LmQ2DxUSMOlIFwPK96S yJh2L9dLRoo9IoXVGvrajHA0BcyOiMFyAWO5t2RJaB6vBB5zuIFcFQXOrdrmrEEKbwxKmnU6Xrl/H M8wMIOVAzSQ3QAS9w0dVHQ==; In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Wed, 9 Aug 2023 22:03:36 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:267085 Archived-At: > From: Drew Adams > Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2023 22:03:36 +0000 > > Dunno how such a change was made to the _default_ Emacs behavior. > Shouldn't have happened, IMHO. > > Two main problems with this self-styled enhancement: > > 1. The default behavior should be what we've always had, which > corresponds to NONE of the `dired-free-space' option values. The 'separate' value (which is not the default) produces the behavior we had in Emacs 28 and older, so why do you say that "what we always had corresponds to none" of the option's values? > 2. Even if you set the option to `separate', so you see the full info, > you can't get the superior previous behavior, which is that there's _no > such info_ shown when you hide details (`('). > > Instead, Someone(TM) maybe thought that those interested in what > Someone(TM) doesn't think interesting - the full info - always want to > see that info, even with details hidden. Blinders... I think it was just an oversight, now fixed on the emacs-29 branch.