From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14380: 24.3; `network-stream-open-tls' fails in some imap servers on w32 Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 18:32:37 +0300 Message-ID: <83r4h3vvca.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87k3mw79iv.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87zjvr64lt.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1368977633 26062 80.91.229.3 (19 May 2013 15:33:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 15:33:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 14380@debbugs.gnu.org, joaotavora@gmail.com To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 19 17:33:51 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ue5cK-0000n0-Ki for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 May 2013 17:33:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57234 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ue5cK-0002ek-80 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 May 2013 11:33:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33607) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ue5cC-0002ea-5i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 May 2013 11:33:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ue5c6-0003Tu-Pt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 May 2013 11:33:40 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:34947) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ue5c6-0003Tq-MG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 May 2013 11:33:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ue5cX-0006jI-Pj; Sun, 19 May 2013 11:34:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 15:34:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14380 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 14380-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14380.136897760625788 (code B ref 14380); Sun, 19 May 2013 15:34:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14380) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 May 2013 15:33:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51536 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ue5by-0006hr-0P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 May 2013 11:33:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:48118) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ue5bv-0006hV-AF for 14380@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 May 2013 11:33:24 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MN100C00XQWEB00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 14380@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 May 2013 18:32:49 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MN100C97XUP9350@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Sun, 19 May 2013 18:32:49 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87zjvr64lt.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:74403 Archived-At: [I removed emacs-devel.] > From: Ted Zlatanov > Cc: 14380@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 23:17:02 -0400 > > (CC to emacs-devel as I think this discussion is relevant there) There's no reason: all the people who you'd like to reach read the bug list as well. > The big problem for me is that I don't have the time or platform > knowledge to write a GnuTLS auto-installer and updater for those two > problematic platforms. The GnuTLS developers don't want to provide this > service either. Who will be responsible to it? What happens when a > security vulnerability hits the DLLs we distribute with Emacs? > > My proposal would be to push out the next Emacs bundled with the latest > GnuTLS DLLs, only support GnuTLS, provide users with instructions on > updating them, and treat GnuTLS vulnerabilities as Emacs > vulnerabilities. This is not ideal but IMO better than the current > situation. I see no problems with the current situation. Installing precompiled GnuTLS from a zip file is a snap.