From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18146: 24.3.92; hebrew tutorial says C-c is rebound. Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 16:05:41 +0300 Message-ID: <83r414fh7e.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87wqaw1fso.fsf@geodiff-mac3.ulb.ac.be> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1406639185 4543 80.91.229.3 (29 Jul 2014 13:06:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 13:06:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 18146@debbugs.gnu.org To: Nicolas Richard Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 29 15:06:17 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XC76f-0002Fz-AB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 15:06:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45543 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XC76e-00007X-SI for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 09:06:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46081) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XC76W-00005z-B0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 09:06:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XC76Q-0000hC-JP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 09:06:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:46513) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XC76Q-0000h6-H6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 09:06:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XC76Q-0000YI-2P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 09:06:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 13:06:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18146 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 18146-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18146.14066391412090 (code B ref 18146); Tue, 29 Jul 2014 13:06:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18146) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jul 2014 13:05:41 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41779 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XC761-0000Xb-Ne for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 09:05:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:51118) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XC75x-0000XD-VY for 18146@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 09:05:35 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N9H00A005IBKT00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 18146@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 16:05:26 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N9H00A9F5OZCZ40@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 16:05:26 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87wqaw1fso.fsf@geodiff-mac3.ulb.ac.be> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:91937 Archived-At: > From: Nicolas Richard > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 14:59:51 +0200 > > I reproduce the problem with: > > emacs -Q -f winner-mode -f help-with-tutorial-spec-language > > I hit "H e b " at the prompt to enter Hebrew tutorial. > > I scroll down to line 590 which reads : > ** C-c has been rebound, but you can use M-x mode-specific-command-prefix instead [More] ** > > If I click on "more" and then "more info" I get: > > Your Emacs customizations override the default binding for this key: > > > The default Emacs binding for the key C-c is the command > > `mode-specific-command-prefix'. However, your customizations have > > rebound it to the command `(keymap (keymap (right . winner-redo) (left > > . winner-undo)) mode-specific-command-prefix)'. > > That does not happen in the english or french tutorial. It happens for me with any tutorial, including English and French, in the current emacs-24 branch. The root cause is, obviously, in winner.el. Not sure if this is worth fixing: newbies are not supposed to enable winner-mode before reading the tutorial.