From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18051: 24.3.92; ls-lisp: Sorting; make ls-lisp-string-lessp a normal function? Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:55:09 +0300 Message-ID: <83r40fc876.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ha2f5gp8.fsf@web.de> <838unr6ttu.fsf@gnu.org> <871ttj5dfi.fsf@web.de> <87iomvhvdg.fsf@gmx.de> <834myf6mfl.fsf@gnu.org> <87a987ht5r.fsf@gmx.de> <83y4vq6cz3.fsf@gnu.org> <87tx6c7f5v.fsf@web.de> <8338dw5zrf.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhro7dp4.fsf@web.de> <83zjg44jzd.fsf@gnu.org> <87wqb8mqqv.fsf@web.de> <83y4vo4fbr.fsf@gnu.org> <87silwmo8h.fsf@web.de> <83wqb84e7l.fsf@gnu.org> <87iomsgsqg.fsf@gmx.de> <83tx6c44x7.fsf@gnu.org> <87egxggigj.fsf@gmx.de> <877g28w19r.fsf@gmx.de> <83sikvcbqr.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1408298184 30645 80.91.229.3 (17 Aug 2014 17:56:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 17:56:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 18051@debbugs.gnu.org To: michael.albinus@gmx.de Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 17 19:56:16 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XJ4gi-0000Xd-5Q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:56:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39804 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XJ4gh-0000dr-TE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:56:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60813) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XJ4ga-0000cr-FE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:56:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XJ4gV-0000J5-AZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:56:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:38649) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XJ4gV-0000J0-7T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:56:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XJ4gU-0000MV-J3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:56:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 17:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18051 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 18051-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18051.14082981311344 (code B ref 18051); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 17:56:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18051) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Aug 2014 17:55:31 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45592 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XJ4fy-0000Lb-B0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:55:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:50801) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XJ4fu-0000LH-Dp for 18051@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:55:28 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NAG00600PLMYV00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 18051@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:55:19 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NAG00632PS7N230@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:55:19 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <83sikvcbqr.fsf@gnu.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:92501 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:38:36 +0300 > From: Eli Zaretskii > Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 18051@debbugs.gnu.org > > > From: Michael Albinus > > Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 18051@debbugs.gnu.org > > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 23:52:16 +0200 > > > > Just being curious, I've taken g_utf8_collate from the glib for a > > test. It doesn't work bad. > > Are you sure this is implemented in Glib, not in the underlying libc > (glibc in your case, I presume)? Answering myself here: by reading the source of g_utf8_collate, it is clear that the implementation is elsewhere. In particular, in any environment that defines __STDC_ISO_10646__ (as does glibc), g_utf8_collate simply calls wcscoll, after converting the UTF-8 strings to wide-character strings. So I think a better alternative would be to base the implementation of this feature on the system libraries directly. I think most modern platforms have the necessary facilities.