From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#22392: Emacs OS X GUI doesn't set locale Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2016 09:32:45 +0200 Message-ID: <83r3grvcgy.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83twm01ju1.fsf@gnu.org> <83lh7c1igo.fsf@gnu.org> <56A90735.7090508@cs.ucla.edu> <838u341cny.fsf__25231.4954218038$1454353164$gmane$org@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1454657603 28178 80.91.229.3 (5 Feb 2016 07:33:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 07:33:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 22392@debbugs.gnu.org To: Random832 Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 05 08:33:11 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aRatA-00013S-IG for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 08:33:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46495 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRat9-0002gf-Ue for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 02:33:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33535) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRat6-0002eB-1C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 02:33:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRat4-00086E-Ir for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 02:33:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:52398) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRat4-00086A-FP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 02:33:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aRat4-0000Oj-AY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 02:33:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2016 07:33:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22392 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 22392-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B22392.14546575801521 (code B ref 22392); Fri, 05 Feb 2016 07:33:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 22392) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Feb 2016 07:33:00 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60987 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aRat1-0000OT-Vw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 02:33:00 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42520) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aRat0-0000OH-NO for 22392@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 02:32:58 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRasq-00080q-QD for 22392@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 02:32:53 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37869) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRasq-00080d-MD; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 02:32:48 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1207 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aRasp-00034C-Pn; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 02:32:48 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Random832 on Fri, 05 Feb 2016 02:12:12 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:112472 Archived-At: > From: Random832 > Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2016 02:12:12 -0500 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > By contrast, OS X is (AFAIK) a BSD-ish system, so I expect much more > > programs to change their behavior when LANG is set to something that > > suits Emacs, but is not necessarily "right" for the rest of the > > system. > > Why wouldn't it be right for the rest of the system? I don't know. Why don't those programs do that today? > Keep in mind that 99% of the time the only programs that are going > to be executing "BSD-ish" programs are going to be terminal > emulators, which also set LANG. If you are saying those programs all have bugs, then I find it hard to believe, and anyway, it isn't Emacs's job to fix bugs all over the system. However, if enough use cases will be reported which show that indeed many programs invoked by Emacs work better with that setting in the environment, I will change my mind. No such examples materialized yet, AFAIR.