From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#25163: 26.0.50; Unable to access `user-emacs-directory' (~/.emacs.d/) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 05:28:52 +0200 Message-ID: <83r35dddvv.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8760mrdrfd.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <83y3zmeb8z.fsf@gnu.org> <83h96ae5ia.fsf@gnu.org> <87a8c2w18z.fsf@wanadoo.es> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1481513563 1289 195.159.176.226 (12 Dec 2016 03:32:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 03:32:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 25163@debbugs.gnu.org To: =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 12 04:32:39 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cGHLz-0007km-AO for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 04:32:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58487 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cGHM0-0003yJ-6C for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2016 22:32:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58665) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cGHIX-0001qG-I5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2016 22:29:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cGHIU-0008Qn-G4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2016 22:29:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:51452) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cGHIU-0008Qi-Dg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2016 22:29:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cGHIU-0004fU-8Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2016 22:29:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 03:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25163 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 25163-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25163.148151330617896 (code B ref 25163); Mon, 12 Dec 2016 03:29:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 25163) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Dec 2016 03:28:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38618 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cGHHu-0004eZ-BD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2016 22:28:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39356) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cGHHt-0004eM-9g for 25163@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2016 22:28:25 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cGHHk-0008BI-QR for 25163@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2016 22:28:20 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:50575) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cGHHk-0008BD-Nt; Sun, 11 Dec 2016 22:28:16 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3686 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cGHHj-0006vz-Te; Sun, 11 Dec 2016 22:28:16 -0500 In-reply-to: <87a8c2w18z.fsf@wanadoo.es> (message from =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes on Sun, 11 Dec 2016 23:26:52 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:126897 Archived-At: > From: Óscar Fuentes > Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2016 23:26:52 +0100 > > The underlying problem is that Emacs uses user-emacs-directory and > user-emacs-directory-warning before any user-customization is made > effective. > > Emacs not being aware of the user setting user-emacs-directory-warning > is annoying and can be solved by delaying the warning, but the part > about user-emacs-directory looks more concerning. Yes, those are my concerns exactly. More generally, Emacs supports only one method of pointing that directory to another place, and that is via the -u command-line option. We could perhaps support other methods as well, like the one the OP uses, but IMO it will require more changes than just delaying the warning.