From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#25590: Remove build number from emacs-version variable Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2017 12:15:33 +0200 Message-ID: <83r33e8doa.fsf@gnu.org> References: <1svasvru4x.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1486203424 1776 195.159.176.226 (4 Feb 2017 10:17:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 10:17:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 25590@debbugs.gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 04 11:17:00 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cZxOt-0000D2-He for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2017 11:16:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38674 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cZxOz-0008Qp-4Y for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2017 05:17:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39206) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cZxO1-0007tL-VM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2017 05:16:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cZxNy-00010L-Qm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2017 05:16:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:57319) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cZxNy-00010D-N3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2017 05:16:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cZxNy-0006gU-Fg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2017 05:16:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2017 10:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25590 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 25590-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25590.148620335325675 (code B ref 25590); Sat, 04 Feb 2017 10:16:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 25590) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Feb 2017 10:15:53 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55518 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cZxNp-0006g2-4T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2017 05:15:53 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48178) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cZxNn-0006fq-Si for 25590@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2017 05:15:52 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cZxNf-0000sI-Aa for 25590@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2017 05:15:46 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:47405) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cZxNf-0000sD-6h for 25590@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2017 05:15:43 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4948 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cZxNe-0005HX-Ax; Sat, 04 Feb 2017 05:15:42 -0500 In-reply-to: <1svasvru4x.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from Glenn Morris on Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:55:58 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:128940 Archived-At: > From: Glenn Morris > Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:55:58 -0500 > > I'd like to suggest removing the build number from the variable emacs-version. > Instead, it can go in a separate variable (eg emacs-build-number). > The function emacs-version can still include it in parentheses, like it > does for several other quantities. If we do the above, we should make sure version-comparison functions treat something like "25.2 (build 4)" correctly. > Motivation: > I think the build number is a largely internal detail that is only of > interest to a small number of developers (as a data point, I've never > used/wanted it for anything). Having it in the version string is > confusing to people not familiar with Emacs development. FWIW, I think this is a low-priority issue, as it most probably will require quite a few changes, while the benefits are minor at best. > (I am not aware of any other software that even has a concept of "build > number".) It's actually part of a version number (which many other projects have, e.g., GDB just released version 7.12.1), except that we never release such versions, they exist only on end-users' machines. Other than that, there's nothing in it which is special to Emacs.