From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#25665: 26.0.50; [PATCH] Indicate prefix arg in minibuffer prompt for shell-command Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 22:31:32 +0200 Message-ID: <83r3373y3f.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8760kjz4nv.fsf@calancha-pc> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1486672406 22292 195.159.176.226 (9 Feb 2017 20:33:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 20:33:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 25665@debbugs.gnu.org, mail@xuchunyang.me To: Tino Calancha Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 09 21:33:17 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cbvP0-0005D5-Un for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2017 21:33:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40128 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cbvP6-0006pr-PH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2017 15:33:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35783) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cbvNt-00062A-Ua for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2017 15:32:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cbvNq-0001T8-9M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2017 15:32:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:35267) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cbvNq-0001Sn-6b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2017 15:32:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cbvNp-0004ZF-Vi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2017 15:32:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 20:32:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25665 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 25665-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25665.148667229917529 (code B ref 25665); Thu, 09 Feb 2017 20:32:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 25665) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Feb 2017 20:31:39 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33465 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cbvNT-0004Yf-Ce for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2017 15:31:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44592) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cbvNR-0004YQ-CZ for 25665@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2017 15:31:37 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cbvNJ-0001BJ-2N for 25665@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2017 15:31:32 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:50287) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cbvNI-0001BE-Vm; Thu, 09 Feb 2017 15:31:28 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4147 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cbvNI-0007AE-2n; Thu, 09 Feb 2017 15:31:28 -0500 In-reply-to: <8760kjz4nv.fsf@calancha-pc> (message from Tino Calancha on Fri, 10 Feb 2017 01:53:56 +0900) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:129157 Archived-At: > From: Tino Calancha > Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 01:53:56 +0900 > Cc: 25665@debbugs.gnu.org, tino.calancha@gmail.com > > I am not sure about this. > The meaning of the prefix argument must be explained in the docstring. > That and the manual are the source of documentation, not the prompt. > > Having a short prompt is also good because there are more space > in the line for the command; a short prompt is also better while tipying > a long command: sometimes you want to change something at the beginning: > < ; `beginning-of-buffer' > Now you need to `C-f' several times to jump out of the prompt. The more > verbose prompt, the more `C-f' you need. > > Just my opinion. Let's see what other people think. I think it goes against Emacs conventions. We have quite a few commands that insert output into the current buffer when invoked with an argument.